Tampa Bay Plays for Saturday

[Unstable]

I have also been looking at the races in this Pick 4. I'm hesitant, because I don't like to bet tracks I'm unfamiliar with. I like the picks suggested for the 10th and 11th. I'm trying to narrow down the choices in the 9th.

As for the 12th, the Tampa Bay Derby, I think this is Any Given Sunday's race to lose. Of the Zito horses, I prefer Most Distinguished to run 2nd. But I haven't seen Optimistic Steve run, so.... I don't think Carl Nafzger could care less about winning this. I think he's trying to get his horse ready for the big race the first Saturday in May.

[POINTGIVEN1985]

Originally Posted by Unstable

I have also been looking at the races in this Pick 4. I'm hesitant, because I don't like to bet tracks I'm unfamiliar with. I like the picks suggested for the 10th and 11th. I'm trying to narrow down the choices in the 9th.

As for the 12th, the Tampa Bay Derby, I think the is Any Given Sunday's race to lose. Of the Zito horses, I prefer Most Distinguished to run 2nd. But I haven't seen Optimistic Steve run, so.... I don't think Carl Nafzger could care less about winning this. I think he's trying to get his horse ready for the big race the first Saturday in May.

i agree about nafzger possibly not caring but heres how i look at it, this horse might just be that much more talented then any given saturday, i mean he has never been worst then 3rd in his career vs very good company and everyone he beat in the juvenile has came back to run very well, so even if he's not fully cranked im thinking he can still beat any given saturday, the more i think about it and look the more im thinking of keying street sense and doing a $3 or $4 ticket, instead of a $1.

[Unstable]

Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985

i agree about nafzger possibly not caring but heres how i look at it, this horse might just be that much more talented then any given saturday, i mean he has never been worst then 3rd in his career vs very good company and everyone he beat in the juvenile has came back to run very well, so even if he's not fully cranked im thinking he can still beat any given saturday, the more i think about it and look the more im thinking of keying street sense and doing a $3 or $4 ticket, instead of a $1.

Good luck to you. I agree that Street Sense is the best horse. I just think that Calvin Borel is going to follow instructions and take it very easy on this horse. If Street Sense doesn't win, who does? The way I'm thinking, I'm going to key Any Given Saturday over the 2 Zito horses in the exacta. I was going to go for a cold exacta Any Given Saturday over Most Distinguished, but a few others on this site love Optimistic Steve, so I've got to include him or I won't be able to sleep tonight.

[GPK]

Remember boys, Tampa is not like most other tracks. Very sandy there and some horses simply do not take to the quirky surface. Been following the track long enough to know that horses that run great elsewhere, can run like total sh*t at Tampa....and visa versa.

My greatest success has come betting horses that are proven over the track.

J.M.V.H.M.F.O.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by GPK

Remember boys, Tampa is not like most other tracks. Very sandy there and some horses simply do not take to the quirky surface. Been following the track long enough to know that horses that run great elsewhere, can run like total sh*t at Tampa....and visa versa.

My greatest success has come betting horses that are proven over the track.

J.M.V.H.M.F.O.

Truer words have never been spoken...GPK is BACK!

AGS has already proven he can win over the surface, albeit over questionable company...I'd still take that over SS off the layoff and the Zito pair, but use them for sure.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Truer words have never been spoken...GPK is BACK!

AGS has already proven he can win over the surface, albeit over questionable company...I'd still take that over SS off the layoff and the Zito pair, but use them for sure.

damn right homey....

Already been to the OTB 2 times this week and left a winner both days.

To quote The Beastie Boys...

"IT'S THE NEW STYLE"

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Truer words have never been spoken...GPK is BACK!

AGS has already proven he can win over the surface, albeit over questionable company...I'd still take that over SS off the layoff and the Zito pair, but use them for sure.

umm Rudeboy, all I have to say about your signature is,

What are you an F'N park ranger now?

[saucon17]

Does any one think Desire To Excel has a chance
in the Fla. Oaks. Hasn't started since Saratoga, but
Breen does pretty well with fresh/layoff horses. Could
be the controlling speed with Calvin at the helm.

[lemoncrush]

Originally Posted by saucon17

Does any one think Desire To Excel has a chance
in the Fla. Oaks. Hasn't started since Saratoga, but
Breen does pretty well with fresh/layoff horses. Could
be the controlling speed with Calvin at the helm.

Yes, I'm using her in my pick 4.
And I'm not a Tampa expert either, but am going to tread lightly and take a shot at the pick 4.
Selections below.

There is a more interesting p4 for the 5-8th races that i will be playing instead of the 9-12 races p4. I HATE turf sprints and with it starting the 9th race p4, i will most likely pass.

[lemoncrush]

Here's what I came up with for a pick 4.

9) 6-8-9-11
Could get burned here, but I think one of these 4 will win it.
Not buying Court Folly in here, as the 5 furlong turf sprint is definitely a specialized race, and I don't think any back class is going to help him win this one.

10) 2,5,7I don't think Cotton blossom will win here, but can't justify not including her, either. Autobahn girl is in great form and Desire to Excel could be an absolute force in the 3-yo filly ranks this year if she comes back as good as she looked before she got sidelined.

11) 1-5-6
I agree that My Typhoon is the class, but also note she's never ran at Tampa before. Plus, 1-1/8 isn't her favorite distance, and she won't be alone on the front end getting away with soft fractions either as the 8 and 9 will both be right on her tail. She could win this on sheer ability, but I need to include Rich in Spirit and as a longshot, I'll take Masseuse. Trainer is good off the long layoff, and if she's ready, she fits with these.

12) 4
No reason to take anyone else. There's already too many built-in excuses for Street Sense not to win here, and I don't see anyone else in the field being able to handle Any Given Saturday. The Sam Davis win makes him even more of a slam dunk. Anything near the 9/5 morning line will be a gift.

6,8,9,11/2,5,7/1,5,6/4
$36 for $1 (pending scratches)

[lemoncrush]

Originally Posted by lemoncrush

Yes, I'm using her in my pick 4.
And I'm not a Tampa expert either, but am going to tread lightly and take a shot at the pick 4.
Selections below.

Changing my ticket.
Going 5 deep in the 9th and 11th.
Singling autobahn girl and Any Given Saturday..

Fingers crossed.

[POINTGIVEN1985]

Originally Posted by saucon17

Does any one think Desire To Excel has a chance
in the Fla. Oaks. Hasn't started since Saratoga, but
Breen does pretty well with fresh/layoff horses. Could
be the controlling speed with Calvin at the helm.

i looked at the race for a long time and i cannot use anyone but the top 2, i looked at her i like her, just not in this spot

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by saucon17

Does any one think Desire To Excel has a chance
in the Fla. Oaks. Hasn't started since Saratoga, but
Breen does pretty well with fresh/layoff horses. Could
be the controlling speed with Calvin at the helm.

Oh yeah, looked at her, she's real interesting.

Long time off but working well. Also noticed in the Schulerville she was the favorite over Cotton Blossom last summer.

Downside is of course the long time off and first time 2 turns, but yeah, I think worth a long look because of the speed she showed last year.