AL GORE Hypocrisy

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Big fat PIG

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?se...rld&id=5072659

Dellinger,
The story broke on the Drudge site. Interesting that other media outlets picked it up and ran with it....like they have the same access to Gore's utility bills as Drudge does.
Anyway, here's Gore's response:
http://thinkprogress.org/?tag=Global+Warming

[dellinger63]

Gore's response is as lame as the facts presented in the original story. If in fact he does have solar panels installed etc he's even more of a pig than I thought. Either that or his solar panels don't work. Another case of 'do as I say and not as I do'.

[GenuineRisk]

What part of the carbon offset thing does the right not understand?

What I find hilarious is that the same people screaming that global warming is a hoax are perfectly happy to scream that Gore is using carbon (well duh, Einsteins; it's just about impossible to not use it- he tries to cut down where he can and buys carbon offsets to cover what he uses). If you think global warming is such a big hoax, why do you even care?

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

What part of the carbon offset thing does the right not understand?

What I find hilarious is that the same people screaming that global warming is a hoax are perfectly happy to scream that Gore is using carbon (well duh, Einsteins; it's just about impossible to not use it- he tries to cut down where he can and buys carbon offsets to cover what he uses). If you think global warming is such a big hoax, why do you even care?

I'm the polar opposite of the right but can't understand how you can defend a guy that averages more energy consumpion in a month than most people use in a year. Especially when that guy is out there telling everyone they need to reduce their energy consumption.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

I'm the polar opposite of the right but can't understand how you can defend a guy that averages more energy consumpion in a month than most people use in a year. Especially when that guy is out there telling everyone they need to reduce their energy consumption.

Sniper, he's a former VP of the US and a celebrity. I hate to say it, but some people are going to be using more energy. I can't stand GW, but I don't begrudge him flying on Air Force One- he's the President. What Al is doing is buying carbon offsets for the amount of carbon he uses- he's trying to reduce what he is costing the environment to zero by paying for it. Which is more than you can say for most of us, myself included (I have Green Power for my apartment's electric, but I still take taxis and stuff). Here's the wikipedia entry on carbon offsets:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_...y_conservation

The key to conservation is understanding no one is going to be perfect, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't make an effort, each and every one of us, to cut back where we can. Walk or bike ride short trips. Park in the first parking space you see- don't drive around and around looking for a closer spot. Don't idle the car. Keep the house a little cooler in the winter and a little warmer in the summer. Buy recycled paper. It's something. Gore is making an effort. He's not going to be perfect; none of us are, but my God, at least he's trying.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Sniper, he's a former VP of the US and a celebrity. I hate to say it, but some people are going to be using more energy. I can't stand GW, but I don't begrudge him flying on Air Force One- he's the President. What Al is doing is buying carbon offsets for the amount of carbon he uses- he's trying to reduce what he is costing the environment to zero by paying for it. Which is more than you can say for most of us, myself included (I have Green Power for my apartment's electric, but I still take taxis and stuff). Here's the wikipedia entry on carbon offsets:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_...y_conservation

The key to conservation is understanding no one is going to be perfect, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't make an effort, each and every one of us, to cut back where we can. Walk or bike ride short trips. Park in the first parking space you see- don't drive around and around looking for a closer spot. Don't idle the car. Keep the house a little cooler in the winter and a little warmer in the summer. Buy recycled paper. It's something. Gore is making an effort. He's not going to be perfect; none of us are, but my God, at least he's trying.

Doesn't his using such redonkulous amounts of energy from renewable sources just in turn drive up demand and prices for others wanting to use that energy? I'm sorry but using 20 times the energy in a year regardless of where it is coming from is not trying.

[dellinger63]

well I'd love to see Gore riding a bike, planting a tree, etc etc. He doesn't but wants you and I to do so. Remember his quote on Oprah that he and his family once tried to re-plant his Christmas tree but it didn't work. So not only does he use the electricity an avg family uses in a year in the space of 30 days but he is also a complete moron to think a harvested Christmas tree can be replanted. I'm not arguing global warming as it exists and has to be stopped but Al Gore either has to shut his mouth or buck up and make some personal sacrifices.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

well I'd love to see Gore riding a bike, planting a tree, etc etc. He doesn't but wants you and I to do so. Remember his quote on Oprah that he and his family once tried to re-plant his Christmas tree but it didn't work. So not only does he use the electricity an avg family uses in a year in the space of 30 days but he is also a complete moron to think a harvested Christmas tree can be replanted. I'm not arguing global warming as it exists and has to be stopped but Al Gore either has to shut his mouth or buck up and make some personal sacrifices.

Then, dellinger (all politics aside, how the heck are you, by the way? ), click on some of the links within the article DTS posted and read Gore's responses. He's trying-- he takes commercial flights when possible. You know he could fly on private planes the rest of his life, but he's not. He drives a hybrid. He's BUYING THE CARBON OFFSETS. If spending your discretionary income to get more trees planted isn't bucking up, then what is? Sure, he's got lots of money, but he's spending some of it to reduce his carbon footprint. What kind of sacrifice to you expect him to make? Killing two of his children so his family uses fewer resources? No, he's not out planting the trees himself, but someone is getting paid to do so with his carbon offsets- so trees get planted AND someone gets a job.

He is bucking up, for the love of Pete, and he's being vocal about it so hopefully some of us will buck up a bit, too. Because one man doing a lot is worth nothing compared to a lot of people doing a little.

Wash laundry in cold water
Line dry your clothes
Pack your lunch (uses fewer disposable containers than buying it every day)
Recycle your printer cartridges
Buy Energy Saver appliances.