Minister's Bid

He's a nice colt....he wasn't having the best time of things before the race yet he still destroyed two decent 3-year-olds that had a lot more experience than him.....I loved this colt's maiden win and I truly believe he is a good horse....Do I think he can be Bernardini or Discreet Cat-type material?...No, but he is nice...I just don't care for his connections...John Ward usually doesn't get it all out of his horses...

...He can impact the late summer 3-year-old races...

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

He's a nice colt....he wasn't having the best time of things before the race yet he still destroyed two decent 3-year-olds that had a lot more experience than him.....I loved this colt's maiden win and I truly believe he is a good horse....Do I think he can be Bernardini or Discreet Cat-type material?...No, but he is nice...I just don't care for his connections...John Ward usually doesn't get it all out of his horses...

...He can impact the late summer 3-year-old races...

So, apparantly sitting behind two horses dueling for the lead, one of them in a drive from a quarter mile into the race, and being ridden very hard to win by a couple lengths is now considered a destruction? You gotta be kidding.

He had a perfect trip and was ridden hard to beat two OK, but decidedly lesser, 3YOs.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

So, apparantly sitting behind two horses dueling for the lead, one of them in a drive from a quarter mile into the race, and being ridden very hard to win by a couple lengths is now considered a destruction? You gotta be kidding.

He had a perfect trip and was ridden hard to beat two OK, but decidedly lesser, 3YOs.

Horses go under a drive because they cannot keep up with other horses..do you not know this? Minister's Bid is a very inexperienced colt that was very rank early on...the fact he was ridden hard doesn't necessarily mean that he was "all-out" to win....he is not a seasoned racehorse and it would be asonine to assume that he turned in a top effort yesterday...the fact still remains that his trainer is very average and this colt will do better with racing experience - like most horses with bad trainers do....

...Contrary to what you may believe, Flashy Bull (only a couple lengths from winning the FOY) and Racketeer (only a couple of lengths behind California's best earlier this year) aren't exactly mules....just because they aren't Derby-caliber contenders doesn't mean that they are walk-overs...

For those of you who are interested and believe in beyer speed figs (which I don't necessarily do), Minister' Bid got a 101 for yesterday's effort - which is ot horrible for a colt making his second lifetime start.....AND, he'll only improve around two-turns..

....For blackthroatedwind to dub yesterday's performance as unimpressive, that is a horrible analysis....this horse can run

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

Horses go under a drive because they cannot keep up with other horses..do you not know this? Minister's Bid is a very inexperienced colt that was very rank early on...the fact he was ridden hard doesn't necessarily mean that he was "all-out" to win....he is not a seasoned racehorse and it would be asonine to assume that he turned in a top effort yesterday...the fact still remains that his trainer is very average and this colt will do better with racing experience - like most horses with bad trainers do....

...Contrary to what you may believe, Flashy Bull (only a couple lengths from winning the FOY) and Racketeer (only a couple of lengths behind California's best earlier this year) aren't exactly mules....just because they aren't Derby-caliber contenders doesn't mean that they are walk-overs...

For those of you who are interested and believe in beyer speed figs (which I don't necessarily do), Minister' Bid got a 101 for yesterday's effort - which is ot horrible for a colt making his second lifetime start.....AND, he'll only improve around two-turns..

....For blackthroatedwind to dub yesterday's performance as unimpressive, that is a horrible analysis....this horse can run

Where to begin. In your response you didn't answer the one question I had for you....how could you label yesterday's win a " destruction " of his field? That was my only question. Your other sadly condescending remarks were unnecessary.

I will once again repeat, I believe yesterday's win was unimpressive, especially in relation to the hype this horse has generated. I realize you have already developed a built in excuse for his future failures ( John Ward being, according to you, a bad trainer ) but I would like to know your prediction for the future.....good or bad?

I believe suggesting he will improve around two turns, as you did, is a " horrible analysis " ( you don't mind if I borrow that one from you...do you? ). This is a closing sprinter. Perhaps if they don't ruin him before that he will do OK in this Fall's Jerome.

By the way, horses go into drives for a variety of reasons, and I didn't give one in the case of Racketeer, but merely pointed out that he was in one very early in the race. And, oh yeah, The Fountain of Youth was a HORRIBLE race this year and I suggest you take a good look at the subsequent performances by the entrants in that race.