Minister's Bid

[randallscott35]

I think Sunriver will win the Travers. Reminds me very much of Flower Alley. And I think he will be much more successful than Bluegrass Cat the rest of this year.

[Gander]

Ya never know. Sorry Scuds, I disresepcted your horse. But its okay if you call All Hail Stormy, a favorite of mine, "my pet rat". Didnt know how sensitive you were, thought you were just a hardcore gambler. My bad.

Randall, I dont doubt anything you say after you showed me up in the BC.
Your the man!

[Exceller]

Ministers Bid looked great to me. Put $750 in my pocket with the late double.

Fractions for the race were 110.16 and 136.77 for the mile. Track looked a little slow but 26.5 for the final 1/4 is super slow.

Originally Posted by boldruler

Fractions for the race were 110.16 and 136.77 for the mile. Track looked a little slow but 26.5 for the final 1/4 is super slow.

I just took another look at the race .... and ...

... Minister's Bid was kept four-wide around the entire turn ... raced greenly until the eighth-pole ... and responded well when he switched leads and hit his best stride.

He ran his final quarter in about :26 flat ... which isn't great ... but not so bad considering that half of it was run off-stride.

A very decent effort for a second start ... and he's certainly eligible to improve. I wouldn't write him off just yet.

[Betsy]

I don't think anyone's writing off an obviously talented horse, but I've seen comments to the effect that MB is as good as the best (or better than) the best 3 year olds, he should be Travers favorite, etc....That is simply premature (very premature, actually) at this point. For one thing, Bernardini is out there. IMO, he is far more talented than his peers and is one of most talented horses, period, in the country. Plus, he's proven himself -let's not forget what he did in the Preakness (only 4th start, none around two turns, etc......). His Withers was tremendous, but no one knew really how good he was before the Preakness (could he even class up to the better 3 year olds?) so if I had said then that he was a top 3 year old, that would have been premature. Same thing with MB.

[JJP]

Speaking of Bernardini, didn't he get around a 101 when he won the Withers in basically a match race? That was career start number 3, and I think yesterday's NW1X with Racketeer and Flashy Bull (and others) was decidedly stronger than the graded Withers. After two races, Minister's Bid is every bit as good as Bernardini was after his first two (actually three) races. It wasn't until the Preakness that Bernardini really moved forward.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Gander

Ya never know. Sorry Scuds, I disresepcted your horse. But its okay if you call All Hail Stormy, a favorite of mine, "my pet rat". Didnt know how sensitive you were, thought you were just a hardcore gambler. My bad.

Randall, I dont doubt anything you say after you showed me up in the BC.
Your the man!

Well,the facts are that Jazil won a 1 million dollar grade 1 race.He is the 3 year old that showed improvement from the Kentucky Derby to the Belmont(a time when most stay the same,or regress.)He is well bred,and could keep improving.I just don't see how you can say the horse is a joke when he keeps running hard to the wire.I just don't understand the lack of respect shown that horse.Maybe his lack of speed is the reason people dislike him.I play very few horses that show the work ethic this horse shows.Very few.Just take a look at most of the raters(when the race doesn't set up for them.)They don't keep coming (regardless.)He does.I'll promise you one thing about this horse.He will not give up.He may get beat,but he ain't gunna quit,and go up and down,and side to side (like these others do when they see they are beaten.)

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Well,the facts are that Jazil won a 1 million dollar grade 1 race.He is the 3 year old that showed improvement from the Kentucky Derby to the Belmont(a time when most stay the same,or regress.)He is well bred,and could keep improving.I just don't see how you can say the horse is a joke when he keeps running hard to the wire.I just don't understand the lack of respect shown that horse.Maybe his lack of speed is the reason people dislike him.I play very few horses that show the work ethic this horse shows.Very few.Just take a look at most of the raters(when the race doesn't set up for them.)They don't keep coming (regardless.)He does.I'll promise you one thing about this horse.He will not give up.He may get beat,but he ain't gunna quit,and go up and down,and side to side (like these others do when they see they are beaten.)

Can't knock Jazil but he doesn't appear to be that fast.