The Two Old Guys

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by Scav

Exceller, how do you miss almost 42k in the win pool

I am a money watcher. Watch it very closely on TVG. I didn't miss anything. There was 49,000 in the total win pool. The usual amount of money came in for the last minute.

Trust me, nobody bet $7500 on any horse in the last minute. The odds barely move. Money was distributed just like any normal race. If you really believe this cute story about 2 old guys winner 30 out of 31, I have a bridge to sell you. I actually lost a few bucks on the horse.

New Awakenings in the 3rd is the chalky favorite though that they should have bet if they really existed.

[Scav]

Again, this wager most likely was put through offshore, at least if I was betting that kind of money, that is where I would be putting it

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by Scav

Again, this wager most likely was put through offshore, at least if I was betting that kind of money, that is where I would be putting it

Were you just born yesterday? LOL.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Exceller

Were you just born yesterday? LOL.

No, born in 1979....that being said, I know Euro and he is a good guy, he knows his stuff....

either way anyone looks at anything on here, it is a message board, any statement, even if you know the guy, should be taken with a ishload of salt

Like Kev, I know he is full of crap, he has never even touched a girl let alone all these stories we hear about him being this huge playa and hookers wanting to do him in cars.....

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Scav

No, born in 1979....that being said, I know Euro and he is a good guy, he knows his stuff....

either way anyone looks at anything on here, it is a message board, any statement, even if you know the guy, should be taken with a ishload of salt

Like Kev, I know he is full of crap, he has never even touched a girl let alone all these stories we hear about him being this huge playa and hookers wanting to do him in cars.....

GPK...the 33YO virgin

[Scav]

Your like a hawk on my posts, you need to relax.....

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Scav

Your like a hawk on my posts, you need to relax.....

IM bored....and I promise you, I aint doing alot of work between now and next friday.

[shanej974]

I believe Euro's story and here is why.

http://forums.espn.go.com/espn/threa...readID=3675520

I don't know how long you've been around Exceller, but if you had previously read the above thread and if the 1 horse had come in today, you might have a different attitude about Euro's "story".

Euro.....keep posting the old man picks. I have faith.

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by Scav

No, born in 1979....that being said, I know Euro and he is a good guy, he knows his stuff....

either way anyone looks at anything on here, it is a message board, any statement, even if you know the guy, should be taken with a ishload of salt

I am sure he is a great guy but I really hope he didn't bet $2500 because of two guys who claim they won 30 out of 31. There are a lot of con artists out there that will take peoples cash and pocket it instead of betting it. I hope this wasn't the case. It actually is an old scam that people pull. It would be great if he was lying, but the reason I said just in case there is a 1% chance he really did bet with these guys is because they could be con artists. 30/31 is something a con guy says.

Just to let you know, offshore accounts won't take big bets last minute because they need time to have the opportunity to place the bet themselves if they feel a need to lay it off. Not much different from a bookie.

[Scav]

That is not true about offshore accounts. I place bets on Pinnacle WHEN THEY ARE IN THE GATE on TVG....

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Scav

That is not true about offshore accounts. I place bets on Pinnacle WHEN THEY ARE IN THE GATE on TVG....

Aces won't let you, unfortunately. I hate aces.

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by Scav

That is not true about offshore accounts. I place bets on Pinnacle WHEN THEY ARE IN THE GATE on TVG....

You don't bet $7500 on a claiming race at Churchill, because they won't take it. That I am positive of.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Exceller

Were you just born yesterday? LOL.

And just who the **** annointed you the mother ****ing prince of veracity and seer of all things true and untrue?

You claim to be able to make a call and find out this or that. You know who did or didn't broker a horse deal. Sure. Just as sure as when you first say you're going to bet $250 on the horse, then it turns into $150 when it runs up the track. Uh huh, of course, sure. Uh huh.

How the hell do you know what an offshore book will or won't take in the last few minutes before post? Did you make a quick phone call on that as well?

How the hell do you know how/where/when these people placed their wagers? You're watching the money? Good keep watching. Take a look at the crystal ball / magic 8-ball / shrunken head, whatever.

You sound ****ing ridiculous. As you would say, so shall I ... on the 1% chance you know anything, I won't refer to you as a stupid ****ing idiot.

Aside from that, you're a great guy.

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

And just who the **** annointed you the mother ****ing prince of veracity and seer of all things true and untrue?

You claim to be able to make a call and find out this or that. You know who did or didn't broker a horse deal. Sure. Just as sure as when you first say you're going to bet $250 on the horse, then it turns into $150 when it runs up the track. Uh huh, of course, sure. Uh huh.

How the hell do you know what an offshore book will or won't take in the last few minutes before post? Did you make a quick phone call on that as well?

How the hell do you know how/where/when these people placed their wagers? You're watching the money? Good keep watching. Take a look at the crystal ball / magic 8-ball / shrunken head, whatever.

You sound ****ing ridiculous. As you would say, so shall I ... on the 1% chance you know anything, I won't refer to you as a stupid ****ing idiot.

Aside from that, you're a great guy.

I did check out Oracles horse and he might have bought him, it just wasn't for IEAH. He probably bought him directly from Ritvo. As for the offshore question, lets just say I have some family members that take bets for a living. They sometimes try to pawn off bets to the offshore books and they won't take them. Offshore accounts are very sophisticated, they don't allow people to hammer them with wiseguy picks. Do you live in the real world? Yeah, I sound ridiculous but the guy who claims to know people who picked 30 out of 31 doesn't. You can't be that stupid. Can you? Con Artists love you types.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Exceller

I did check out Oracles horse and he might have bought him, it just wasn't for IEAH. He probably bought him directly from Ritvo. As for the offshore question, lets just say I have some family members that take bets for a living. They sometimes try to pawn off bets to the offshore books and they won't take them. Offshore accounts are very sophisticated, they don't allow people to hammer them with wiseguy picks. Do you live in the real world? Yeah, I sound ridiculous but the guy who claims to know people who picked 30 out of 31 doesn't. You can't be that stupid. Can you? Con Artists love you types.

Ok, I take it all back. You are indeed a stupid f'ing idiot. You were wrong about the Oracle horse, you have no idea about sportsbooks and you obviously can't count as well as a ****ing 2nd grader having ****ed up the total win pool you quoted on the race. What kind of fool "Watches" the money closely in the last couple minutes and thinks it really matters. Nobody with any ****ing sense, that's who. And just because your fateher or mother may be runners for a numbers operation means absolutely nothing in terms of you knowing how sportsbooks work. I've used 3 online sportsbooks and I can assure you two of them will take the kind of action we're talking about here on a short-priced horse, either online or by phone.

Stick to talking about what you are knowledgeable on. Let us all know when you find it.

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

Ok, I take it all back. You are indeed a stupid f'ing idiot. You were wrong about the Oracle horse, you have no idea about sportsbooks and you obviously can't count as well as a ****ing 2nd grader having ****ed up the total win pool you quoted on the race. What kind of fool "Watches" the money closely in the last couple minutes and thinks it really matters. Nobody with any ****ing sense, that's who. And just because your fateher or mother may be runners for a numbers operation means absolutely nothing in terms of you knowing how sportsbooks work. I've used 3 online sportsbooks and I can assure you two of them will take the kind of action we're talking about here on a short-priced horse, either online or by phone.

Stick to talking about what you are knowledgeable on. Let us all know when you find it.

Sure, I am the idiot. I am just gonna guess you never even had enough money to make a large bet with a sports book, because THEY DO NOT TAKE THEM IN THE LAST MINUTE OF BETTING. What don't you understand about that? You are almost as full of crap as the other guy.

Originally Posted by Exceller

I did check out Oracles horse and he might have bought him, it just wasn't for IEAH. He probably bought him directly from Ritvo. As for the offshore question, lets just say I have some family members that take bets for a living. They sometimes try to pawn off bets to the offshore books and they won't take them. Offshore accounts are very sophisticated, they don't allow people to hammer them with wiseguy picks. Do you live in the real world? Yeah, I sound ridiculous but the guy who claims to know people who picked 30 out of 31 doesn't. You can't be that stupid. Can you? Con Artists love you types.

I bought the horse for one of its current owners, Sanford Robbins. Call Ritvo, ask him who bought it, I talkto him all the time. As for you, if that was some sort of retraction, it was a wise move.

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by oracle80

I bought the horse for one of its current owners, Sanford Robbins. Call Ritvo, ask him who bought it, I talkto him all the time. As for you, if that was some sort of retraction, it was a wise move.

No retraction. All I know is you didn't buy it for IEAH.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Exceller

I am a money watcher. Watch it very closely on TVG. I didn't miss anything. There was 49,000 in the total win pool. The usual amount of money came in for the last minute.

Trust me, nobody bet $7500 on any horse in the last minute. The odds barely move. Money was distributed just like any normal race. If you really believe this cute story about 2 old guys winner 30 out of 31, I have a bridge to sell you. I actually lost a few bucks on the horse.

New Awakenings in the 3rd is the chalky favorite though that they should have bet if they really existed.

If you didn't believe the story, then why did you bet? Stop whining about it and take responsiblity for your own handicapping.

[whorstman]

Originally Posted by Exceller

I am a money watcher. Watch it very closely on TVG. I didn't miss anything. There was 49,000 in the total win pool. The usual amount of money came in for the last minute.

Trust me, nobody bet $7500 on any horse in the last minute. The odds barely move. Money was distributed just like any normal race. If you really believe this cute story about 2 old guys winner 30 out of 31, I have a bridge to sell you. I actually lost a few bucks on the horse.

New Awakenings in the 3rd is the chalky favorite though that they should have bet if they really existed.

Damn, chalk another one up in the show column