Dutrow Suspended for 14 Days(For Communicating with Barn)

[Gander]

What a great quote (In BOLD)...

"He was doing things he shouldn't have been doing," Donofrio said.

Dutrow slapped with 14-day suspension
By DAVID GRENING

http://www.drf.com/news/article/82518.html

[randallscott35]

I'm pretty sure the other guys who get suspended try to keep in contact also, but Rick got caught. This isn't like finding EPO in his horse. Not saying he's a saint but we need to put it in context.

[Gander]

I find it hard to believe that any trainers who get suspended just go off and not have any contact with their assistants. Anyone actually believe this? You know how easy it is to get a disguise and look like regular barn help?

[Gander]

[ELA]

Originally Posted by Gander

I find it hard to believe that any trainers who get suspended just go off and not have any contact with their assistants. Anyone actually believe this? You know how easy it is to get a disguise and look like regular barn help?

Actually it is extremely difficult. A well known trainer risks far too much "sneaking" onto the backstretch, or even the frontside (to watch the races, workouts, etc.). Rick Dutrow would be picked out in a heartbeat.

Eric

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by ELA

Actually it is extremely difficult. A well known trainer risks far too much "sneaking" onto the backstretch, or even the frontside (to watch the races, workouts, etc.). Rick Dutrow would be picked out in a heartbeat.

Eric

I thought you said that they couldn't subpoena phone and bank records? You also said that the checks are still made out to the regular trainer and not the assistant. Wrong on both counts.

[ELA]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I thought you said that they couldn't subpoena phone and bank records?

My comment was about "sneaking" on to the backstretch. I've only seen a couple of orders of suspension, and the couple I've seen never said anything about no contact, phone calles, banking, etc. I've seen, first hand, trainers on suspension bill exactly as normal so I think each case would be specific. I think a few other people here said that legally the board couldn't do examine bank records, phoen calls, etc. I am not a practicing attorney so I wouldn't voice an opinion on that -- at least I don't think I did. I've never seen those conditions attached but in this case it's indisputable.

I wonder in this case, whether or not the board was exercising it's rights -- as I have never heard them doing so in other cases. Have they checked Pletcher yet? What about Assmusen (which was not in NY)? Any of the others?

Eric

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by ELA

My comment was about "sneaking" on to the backstretch. I've only seen a couple of orders of suspension, and the couple I've seen never said anything about no contact, phone calles, banking, etc. I've seen, first hand, trainers on suspension bill exactly as normal so I think each case would be specific. I think a few other people here said that legally the board couldn't do examine bank records, phoen calls, etc. I am not a practicing attorney so I wouldn't voice an opinion on that -- at least I don't think I did. I've never seen those conditions attached but in this case it's indisputable.

I wonder in this case, whether or not the board was exercising it's rights -- as I have never heard them doing so in other cases. Have they checked Pletcher yet? What about Assmusen (which was not in NY)? Any of the others?

Eric

I was referring to our exchange a couple of months where you argued with me for an hour, telling me that racing boards don't check phone or bank records.

[blackthroatedwind]

So let me get this straight....a trainer is suspended for 45 days, over 12% of a year, and he severly violates the terms of his suspension, and yet receives only a further 14 day suspension? Huh? Sounds to me like he never served the initial suspension and should get a bare minimum of another 45 day suspension, and probably much more. But, this is racing, where nobody needs follow the rules because they never really get punished.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Gander

I find it hard to believe that any trainers who get suspended just go off and not have any contact with their assistants. Anyone actually believe this? You know how easy it is to get a disguise and look like regular barn help?

If they are resourceful enough to subpoena your phone records and bank records, I think they would be resourceful enough to find out if you were out at your barn wearing a disguise.