The Two Old Guys

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Dont know if you are going to get even money or not. Last night when they left my house they said they had to make a couple of calls and then they laughed. Dont know if they were serious or not. I will let you know, I have $2500 ready to lay down if they bet.

I am sticking with those two horses regardless of odds or who picks them. I liked them yesterday and I still like them both. $2500 is quite a bit for $8K claimers, but that horse and New Awakening in the 3rd at Churchill look like easy chalk winners today.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Exceller

I am sticking with those two horses regardless of odds or who picks them. I liked them yesterday and I still like them both. $2500 is quite a bit for $8K claimers, but that horse and New Awakening in the 3rd at Churchill look like easy chalk winners today.

Exceller, these old guys have hit like 25 bets in a row or something, they are unreal.....

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by Scav

Exceller, these old guys have hit like 25 bets in a row or something, they are unreal.....

That is unreal, the only people that make real money betting are people that pick their spots and don't go betting anything else. I know a guy who gambles for a living and he only plays win bets. He gambles on all the big tracks, including the ones in Japan. You can't be an action junkie if you want to make real money gambling.

Originally Posted by Exceller

That is unreal, the only people that make real money betting are people that pick their spots and don't go betting anything else. I know a guy who gambles for a living and he only plays win bets. He gambles on all the big tracks, including the ones in Japan. You can't be an action junkie if you want to make real money gambling.

I think they have hit 14 in a row now. They only bet races that are claiming, and the purse is between $14k and $20k. They only wager on about 9 races a year. The last one they hit was at Calder. The horse was 3/2 or something like. I did find out that they have lost once in the past 4 years. They said they have 31 wins and 1 loss. Their charts are horses is unreal. I got to see "the vault" of information a few days ago. It is unreal. The only study claiming horses. But we will see what happens.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

I think they have hit 14 in a row now. They only bet races that are claiming, and the purse is between $14k and $20k. They only wager on about 9 races a year. The last one they hit was at Calder. The horse was 3/2 or something like. I did find out that they have lost once in the past 4 years. They said they have 31 wins and 1 loss. Their charts are horses is unreal. I got to see "the vault" of information a few days ago. It is unreal. The only study claiming horses. But we will see what happens.

Scavs wagers 9 times in 2 minutes

Originally Posted by GPK

Scavs wagers 9 times in 2 minutes

That is funny. I am learning from these guys. So far I have narrowed my wagering to three tracks. Those are Churchill, Belmont and Hollywood. Everyone once in awhile I will need a fix and wager some other track--lol. Then I will go to two tracks, Saratoga and Del Mar. Now I just need to find the races I am good at handicapping.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by GPK

Scavs wagers 9 times in 2 minutes

2 minutes is too much credit, there are times when I have 15 bets going at three tracks, all that go off within a matter of seconds.....I have crazy mouse skills to be able to see the stretch call on all three of them....

[whorstman]

Originally Posted by Scav

2 minutes is too much credit, there are times when I have 15 bets going at three tracks, all that go off within a matter of seconds.....I have crazy mouse skills to be able to see the stretch call on all three of them....

You need to get you a Quad card for your PC, you can hook up 4 monitors and open 4 windows full screen.lol

[whorstman]

I guess I would be an action junkie, but I will only bet a few bucks just for the fun. I only bet if I'm at the track and I can't just "skip" a race. I guess it's like paying for the atmosphere. I bet more on the ones I like, less on the ones I don't.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Exceller

I am sticking with those two horses regardless of odds or who picks them. I liked them yesterday and I still like them both. $2500 is quite a bit for $8K claimers, but that horse and New Awakening in the 3rd at Churchill look like easy chalk winners today.

Exceller, you are really full of ****. Here you say you're betting these horses REGARDLESS OF ODDS. Now, you say you didn't bet it because the odds were too low. That's actually the right way to gamble, but frankly I don't think you're wise enough to know it. Unless of course it's after the fact and your horse has already lost; then it's easy to say you didn't bet it. Go ahead, make the next phone call.

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

Exceller, you are really full of ****. Here you say you're betting these horses REGARDLESS OF ODDS. Now, you say you didn't bet it because the odds were too low. That's actually the right way to gamble, but frankly I don't think you're wise enough to know it. Unless of course it's after the fact and your horse has already lost; then it's easy to say you didn't bet it. Go ahead, make the next phone call.

I was betting $250 today. That is what I budgeted. The first horse lost. I didn't bet the second because at 3-5 what is the point in betting $100. To make $60. I originally was betting $250 on the horse in the first at Churchill and then dumping it all on Ministers Bid. Now I am betting a late double at Belmont for $100 using Ministers Bid and Mascot. I bet with real money. I don't go making up these $1000 and $500 bets I see here all day. You guys are full of it. You wouldn't be able to pay for your computers let alone the electricity if you guys were really betting that type of money. What are you all independently wealthy? LOL.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Exceller

I was betting $250 today. That is what I budgeted. The first horse lost. I didn't bet the second because at 3-5 what is the point in betting $100. To make $60. I originally was betting $250 on the horse in the first at Churchill and then dumping it all on Ministers Bid. Now I am betting a late double at Belmont for $100 using Ministers Bid and Mascot. I bet with real money. I don't go making up these $1000 and $500 bets I see here all day. You guys are full of it. You wouldn't be able to pay for your computers let alone the electricity if you guys were really betting that type of money. What are you all independently wealthy? LOL.

No, not wealthy (at least I don't think so), but I've been working a long time and I've done ok. Exceller, you've got to get this gambling thing down a bit better. I'll even let you in on a few of SentToStud's secrets of successful horse wagering...

1. First, by "budgeting" a set amount, you're limiting upside and you cannot do that. After all, if you like 3 horses that are 2-1, 2-1 and 10-1 and you've gone through most or all of your "budget" by the time your 10-1 rolls around, you're gonna want to kill yourself when that 10-1 wins.

2. Never bet to place or show.

3. If a favorite looks deserving and looks fair value, it probably is. Pass the race. You'll lose in the long run betting on or against deserving chalk.

4. The key to making money is to set your own line. Lots of people know this. However, that effort alone is useless unless you are able and willing to wager more as the odds on your selection increase vs what you determined as fair odds. For example, If you are willing to bet $100 on a horse if he goes off at 5-1, you MUST be willing to bet MORE on your horse at 6-1, 7-1, etc.. This is single the most important factor in making money on horse race wagering. If you truly have family in the bookmaking business, ask them about this. Nothing makes a bookie's ass twitch faster than a larger than average wager from a customer on a longer priced horse. If they tell you this isn't true, they're lying.

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

No, not wealthy (at least I don't think so), but I've been working a long time and I've done ok. Exceller, you've got to get this gambling thing down a bit better. I'll even let you in on a few of SentToStud's secrets of successful horse wagering...

1. First, by "budgeting" a set amount, you're limiting upside and you cannot do that. After all, if you like 3 horses that are 2-1, 2-1 and 10-1 and you've gone through most or all of your "budget" by the time your 10-1 rolls around, you're gonna want to kill yourself when that 10-1 wins.

2. Never bet to place or show.

3. If a favorite looks deserving and looks fair value, it probably is. Pass the race. You'll lose in the long run betting on or against deserving chalk.

4. The key to making money is to set your own line. Lots of people know this. However, that effort alone is useless unless you are able and willing to wager more as the odds on your selection increase vs what you determined as fair odds. For example, If you are willing to bet $100 on a horse if he goes off at 5-1, you MUST be willing to bet MORE on your horse at 6-1, 7-1, etc.. This is single the most important factor in making money on horse race wagering. If you truly have family in the bookmaking business, ask them about this. Nothing makes a bookie's ass twitch faster than a larger than average wager from a customer on a longer priced horse. If they tell you this isn't true, they're lying.

I am not a great gambler, that is why I set budgets. I anticipate losing what I bet. I have a percentage of a couple of horses and I have been told I can expect to lose money there too. I don't mind losing, horses are my entertainment.

Originally Posted by Exceller

I am not a great gambler, that is why I set budgets. I anticipate losing what I bet. I have a percentage of a couple of horses and I have been told I can expect to lose money there too. I don't mind losing, horses are my entertainment.

Probably the best and most accurate post you ever wrote. Noone should ever go to the track and expect to win money, and you should always take what you can afford to lose, because you always have to anticipate a worst case scenario.

[Scav]

I expect to win EVERY SINGLE TIME.....otherwise, I wouldn't be going

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by Exceller

I was betting $250 today. That is what I budgeted. The first horse lost. I didn't bet the second because at 3-5 what is the point in betting $100. To make $60. I originally was betting $250 on the horse in the first at Churchill and then dumping it all on Ministers Bid. Now I am betting a late double at Belmont for $100 using Ministers Bid and Mascot. I bet with real money. I don't go making up these $1000 and $500 bets I see here all day. You guys are full of it. You wouldn't be able to pay for your computers let alone the electricity if you guys were really betting that type of money. What are you all independently wealthy? LOL.

Maybe I should be the one giving out handicapping lessons. For a guy that was told here how I don't know what I am doing, I just collected $750 for that Ministers Bid/Mascot double.