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Old 02-11-2007, 12:18 PM
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CQ dragged johhny v up to the back of the pack....he was nowhere near letting him loose...If CQ had room and kicked like he did in EVERY other race he has been in then he would have won...this race is a TOTAL toss out...if you dont think so you need to have the race played on a 100 inch screen or something so you can see what happened. I would compare this AWFUL trip to 3 horses being taken out by Landseer in the 2002 BC Mile. I would also like to point out that after CQ dodged a bullet Johnny V did not go right to work on him.....he took caution and made sure that CQ was ok before he let him loose.
What is going on around here regarding CQ? Based on the reaction that I see on here it is a sure thing that he will be an underlay once again in his next start because of the fact that people are going to keep repeating that this race is a total throw-out. Well I am not going to choose to throw it out because while the incident clouded the final outcome a bit, I saw enough to realize that CQ is probably not going to be a star two turn horse.
And this is a horse that I have liked from the beginning but the emerging pattern in his performances hints strongly to me at least that he has limited upside going two turns against the best emerging three year olds.

You mention that if he had room and kicked like he did in every other race that he would have won. How can you say that? His kick has never got him to the winners circle going two turns, and it certainly wouldn't have yesterday. I have looked at the race several times and I can't see him better than perhaps in the place or show photo if you assume that the incident does not happen.

This is an example of a troubled trip that will be way overplayed in terms of its effect on the outcome.
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Old 02-11-2007, 12:35 PM
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With large fields and getting so slowly out of the gate, CQ will have problems in any race with large numbers of horses. The horse will find nothing but trouble with the gate issues and lack of speed. If he makes it to the Derby, he will most likely be swallowed by the masses.

Something has got to change early in races for him.
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Old 02-11-2007, 07:48 PM
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With large fields and getting so slowly out of the gate, CQ will have problems in any race with large numbers of horses. The horse will find nothing but trouble with the gate issues and lack of speed. If he makes it to the Derby, he will most likely be swallowed by the masses.

Something has got to change early in races for him.
Yea just like his daddy was
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Old 02-11-2007, 12:54 PM
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I agree that his two turn upside is probably limited but this is a G3 that we are talking about. I guess we will see in the LA Derby whether or not he is for real around turn turns. Ill give him one more race.
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