NC vs Duke - and Louisville

Cannon Shell · #1 02-09-2007, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by T3B

TB...so many good players you never had the pleasure of seeing. Ask some older people about Bernard King...wow...that brotha had the softest shot I have ever seen.

Comparing Bernard King and JJ Redick is an insult to Mr. King. Redick is not the player Albert King was.

#2 02-09-2007, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Comparing Bernard King and JJ Redick is an insult to Mr. King. Redick is not the player Albert King was.

I dont think they were really doing that. If so that is laughable. B. King was one of the best scorers ever. Possilby the quickest jumpshot I have seen.

#3 02-09-2007, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by turdbucket67

i've never seen bernard king play(unless espn classic counts).. anyways, i've never seen somebody shoot the ball as well as redick(not necessary play basketball as well).... i still believe that redick will be a good nba player, but time will tell

I think he can be in the right situation. He is a spot up shooter, there are NBA offenses that can accomidate that type of player. But defense is another matter entirely.

TB really needs to understand... Example, Brent Barry, who has spent a whole lot of time in the NBA but is far from a superstar, is a 3 point specialist. This guy has a fairly ugly looking shot but he gets it off very quickly. Two weeks ago in a Spurs practice he made 96 out of 100 3's unguarded while moving around the 3 point arc. So pretty shots are nice. But I am relatively sure Redick has never done this at the pro line. And Barry is faster and a much better jumper, passer, and defender than Redick even at his advanced age. He was also a slam dunk champion. The guys in the NBA are flat out incredibly gifted athletes and players. The college guys are incredibly gifted players. The athletic part does not necessarily come along. If you dont have a bit of both, its really hard. Oden is being touted as a monster draft choice because he clearly has both. Its just a matter if it can translate over and I personally think it will.

There are plenty of tricks the AND ONE kids can do and some of them are very gifted athletes, but if they ever played in a real game with real defense and real refs... it would be genocide.
The same goes for some college guys. They may be very good players, but just not athletic enough.
Redick really is going to have to find the right team.

randallscott35 · #4 02-09-2007, 02:52 PM

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#5 02-09-2007, 02:54 PM

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Pgn, clear your pm's I'm trying to send you one.

Mission accomplished.

#6 02-09-2007, 02:53 PM

What I would really love is for TB and pgardn to sit in on a North Carolina/Duke game right down on the floor.

And then TB could come with pgardn to a Spurs practice right down on the floor and watch Tony Parker. You would be flabbergasted. The raw 70 foot speed is amazing and then layups between 7 footers at full speed... its absolutely awesome.

Like going to an allowance race at a classic distance and then watching Invasor.

Pointg5 · #7 02-09-2007, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn

What I would really love is for TB and pgardn to sit in on a North Carolina/Duke game right down on the floor.

And then TB could come with pgardn to a Spurs practice right down on the floor and watch Tony Parker. You would be flabbergasted. The raw 70 foot speed is amazing and then layups between 7 footers at full speed... its absolutely awesome.

Like going to an allowance race at a classic distance and then watching Invasor.

I saw Dwayne Wade play in person when he was with Marquette, I had really good seats and he was unreal, there were other future NBA players on the floor and he just schooled them. That was one of the best displays of talent I have seen in person...

GPK · #8 02-09-2007, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Comparing Bernard King and JJ Redick is an insult to Mr. King. Redick is not the player Albert King was.

Chuck...would NEVER think of comparing those two. Got to see BK a couple times at the old Capital Center in Landover when the Bullets played there. Man, could he shoot or what??

Gander · #9 02-09-2007, 07:54 PM

I wont deny that Pitt isnt an excellent team this year, they are. But they have had some pretty fine teams this decade and I dont remember them (with the exception of one year) making any noise in this tournament.

The rest of the Big East is very mediocre and thus far very disappointing.

And since when did Georgetown/Louisville become a "rivalry"?

ESPN pumped up this past week as rivalry week. Sorry, Georgetown/Louisville is no rivalry.

Cannon Shell · #10 02-09-2007, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander

I wont deny that Pitt isnt an excellent team this year, they are. But they have had some pretty fine teams this decade and I dont remember them (with the exception of one year) making any noise in this tournament.

The rest of the Big East is very mediocre and thus far very disappointing.

And since when did Georgetown/Louisville become a "rivalry"?

ESPN pumped up this past week as rivalry week. Sorry, Georgetown/Louisville is no rivalry.

Hey man if ESPN says its a rivalry then its a rivalry! Even if the had played like one time before! LOL

GPK · #11 02-09-2007, 08:06 PM

Chuck...how good were those duels that Larry and Dominique used to put on when the C's played the Hawks. Bird had that night in the old Omni where the Hawks used to play....made EVERYTHING he through up that night. I remember him getting fouled, falling out of bounds in front of the Hawks bench and when the shot goes up, all the players on the Hawks start leaning on each other, half standing up...and when the ball falls through the net..they are going nuts..high fiving each other..and all this from a guy that was on the OTHER TEAM. Like you told TB...Bird could have averaged 45 a night if he really wanted to.

Man, I miss the old school NBA

Cannon Shell · #12 02-09-2007, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by T3B

Chuck...how good were those duels that Larry and Dominique used to put on when the C's played the Hawks. Bird had that night in the old Omni where the Hawks used to play....made EVERYTHING he through up that night. I remember him getting fouled, falling out of bounds in front of the Hawks bench and when the shot goes up, all the players on the Hawks start leaning on each other, half standing up...and when the ball falls through the net..they are going nuts..high fiving each other..and all this from a guy that was on the OTHER TEAM. Like you told TB...Bird could have averaged 45 a night if he really wanted to.

Man, I miss the old school NBA

Yeah the Hawks-Celts aint much a a rivalry anymore!!
You know its hard to even find a team to root against anymore. East is pathetic and hard to root for/against most teams in the west.

GPK · #13 02-09-2007, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Yeah the Hawks-Celts aint much a a rivalry anymore!!
You know its hard to even find a team to root against anymore. East is pathetic and hard to root for/against most teams in the west.

I haven't watch a full NBA game since Hitler was a private...

Cannon Shell · #14 02-09-2007, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by T3B

Chuck...would NEVER think of comparing those two. Got to see BK a couple times at the old Capital Center in Landover when the Bullets played there. Man, could he shoot or what??

Baseline to baseline as fast as anybody his size. Was having his best season when he blew out his knee. Was still a good player when he came back but not quite what he was when he was with the Knicks. Post ups, fade away, could take you right or left. Remember when he went on that spree of 50 point games? Or the series against Detroit when they were first getting good? He and Isiah put up some scoring duel. Too bad all the kids now think Isiah is just a horrible GM. That guy could play, fun to watch.