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Old 02-06-2007, 08:20 PM
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I was at gulfstream a couple of days the last week or two and was kinda dumbfounded by a longshot which paid alot of coin. The trainer had never raced a horse in 2006/7 and his name started and ended with a vowel. The jockey also drew a blank with me, as did his stats. I drew my conclusions and said to myself, " oh , well " another putover at gulfstream. I didn't dwell on it and had pretty much forgotten about it until I just happened upon an Andy Beyer column on the very same subject, from Feb. 6th at the DRF. Apparently Andy just couldn't help but find out what gives with both the trainer and the stable. An amusing story awaits ..........

http://www.drf.com/drfNewsArticle.do...6&subs=0&arc=0
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Old 02-06-2007, 08:23 PM
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I begged him not to write that story.
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Old 02-06-2007, 08:26 PM
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I begged him not to write that story.

for what reason, if I may ask?

Think if may have a detrimental effect on racing in some way?
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Old 02-06-2007, 08:27 PM
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for what reason, if I may ask?

Think if may have a detrimental effect on racing in some way?
Only a detrimental effect on how many horseplayers now know about them!
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Old 02-06-2007, 08:28 PM
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No Kev.. A detrimental effect on how many now know about them!

that was the first thought that popped in my mind...the longer they are a secret, they better for those that follow in great detail.


and can we delete this whole thread???
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Old 02-06-2007, 08:34 PM
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He's even worse than that wiseguy putover artist Fred Seitz!
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Old 02-06-2007, 08:34 PM
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I'll have a collision with Collision in tomorrow's 8th.
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Old 02-06-2007, 08:47 PM
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Filthy damn unraced-maiden races. The absolute sewer portion of the sport.
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Old 02-06-2007, 08:53 PM
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Manning pulled one of these a few years ago. Not 30-1, but I remember something like this....Maybe it was the same year Gil had trainers sawing horses legs off.
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Old 02-06-2007, 08:55 PM
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Manning pulled one of these a few years ago. Not 30-1, but I remember something like this....Maybe it was the same year Gil had trainers sawing horses legs off.

That was that Grand horse that won the Pennsylvania Derby and was sold to Godolphin.

These guys won with TWO firsters and another claimer putover.
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Old 02-06-2007, 08:56 PM
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That was that Grand horse that won the Pennsylvania Derby and was sold to Godolphin.

These guys won with TWO firsters and another claimer putover.
That's right. Of course at the time, you didn't know it was a world beater....Doubtful this new guys horses will be bought by the Arabs.
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Old 02-06-2007, 08:58 PM
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Grande Hombre....won his debut at GP by 4 lengths, at 14/1 odds for Manning--in very fast time....just about everything behind him came back to win their next start.

For a trivia, name the 4th place finisher in that MSW race?

Hint: he reeled off 5 straight wins, including the Dwyer and Jim Dandy after that maiden loss
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Grande Hombre....won his debut at GP by 4 lengths, at 14/1 odds for Manning--in very fast time....just about everything behind him came back to win their next start.

For a trivia, name the 4th place finisher in that MSW race?

Hint: he reeled off 5 straight wins, including the Dwyer and Jim Dandy after that maiden loss
Strong Hope?
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Old 02-06-2007, 09:01 PM
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Strong Hope.
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Old 02-06-2007, 09:02 PM
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Joe What?
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correct on Strong Hope.
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He's even worse than that wiseguy putover artist Fred Seitz!
I love Fred Seitz! May Night! Hard luck filly..
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I love Fred Seitz! May Night! Hard luck filly..
Lets not speak of May Night, got ZERO trip last night and ran an unbelievable 4th or 5th, and would have won the race with a hole, Gomez had the most horse I have ever seen a single jockey have in that race on the final turn.....She was in front by 4 lengths about 8 jumps after the wire.....
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Old 02-06-2007, 09:43 PM
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I respect Andy Beyer but this story is almost implausable. There are so many gaps in the story....they learned to put over 1 st timers in Puerto Rico and Ocala? How does one trainer train for another under a stable name? Etc....
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Old 02-06-2007, 10:16 PM
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gotta go write this down, not much here now anyways-lata gatas
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