Beyer on the newest wise guy

[GPK]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I begged him not to write that story.

for what reason, if I may ask?

Think if may have a detrimental effect on racing in some way?

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by T3B

for what reason, if I may ask?

Think if may have a detrimental effect on racing in some way?

Only a detrimental effect on how many horseplayers now know about them!

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Kasept

No Kev.. A detrimental effect on how many now know about them!

that was the first thought that popped in my mind...the longer they are a secret, they better for those that follow in great detail.


and can we delete this whole thread???

[The Indomitable DrugS]

He's even worse than that wiseguy putover artist Fred Seitz!

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

He's even worse than that wiseguy putover artist Fred Seitz!

I love Fred Seitz! May Night! Hard luck filly..

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Kasept

I love Fred Seitz! May Night! Hard luck filly..

Lets not speak of May Night, got ZERO trip last night and ran an unbelievable 4th or 5th, and would have won the race with a hole, Gomez had the most horse I have ever seen a single jockey have in that race on the final turn.....She was in front by 4 lengths about 8 jumps after the wire.....

[Cannon Shell]

I respect Andy Beyer but this story is almost implausable. There are so many gaps in the story....they learned to put over 1 st timers in Puerto Rico and Ocala? How does one trainer train for another under a stable name? Etc....

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by merasmag

gotta go write this down, not much here now anyways-lata gatas

Can't be lata e nuff.

Just another reason why Andy Beyer is God.

:::runs away from all the Beyer haters:::



Seriously though, I love when he calls up these unknown owners to get to the bottom of the things. Dude is a good kind of paranoid.

Excellent read, thanks for posting it.

[Independent George]

I'll have a collision with Collision in tomorrow's 8th.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Filthy damn unraced-maiden races. The absolute sewer portion of the sport.

[randallscott35]

Manning pulled one of these a few years ago. Not 30-1, but I remember something like this....Maybe it was the same year Gil had trainers sawing horses legs off.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Manning pulled one of these a few years ago. Not 30-1, but I remember something like this....Maybe it was the same year Gil had trainers sawing horses legs off.

That was that Grand horse that won the Pennsylvania Derby and was sold to Godolphin.

These guys won with TWO firsters and another claimer putover.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

That was that Grand horse that won the Pennsylvania Derby and was sold to Godolphin.

These guys won with TWO firsters and another claimer putover.

That's right. Of course at the time, you didn't know it was a world beater....Doubtful this new guys horses will be bought by the Arabs.

[outofthebox]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

That was that Grand horse that won the Pennsylvania Derby and was sold to Godolphin.

These guys won with TWO firsters and another claimer putover.

Not very hard to put one over when your training at Classic Mile in Ocala when there is no clocker. You put what you want for the workouts. I believe Grand Hombre had 4 works of a half mile. Each slower than 52..lol..I myself would have put some obscure jockey on(not Prado) I believe he went 1:08 and change, so any jock would have done fine that day...

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Grande Hombre....won his debut at GP by 4 lengths, at 14/1 odds for Manning--in very fast time....just about everything behind him came back to win their next start.

For a trivia, name the 4th place finisher in that MSW race?

Hint: he reeled off 5 straight wins, including the Dwyer and Jim Dandy after that maiden loss

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Grande Hombre....won his debut at GP by 4 lengths, at 14/1 odds for Manning--in very fast time....just about everything behind him came back to win their next start.

For a trivia, name the 4th place finisher in that MSW race?

Hint: he reeled off 5 straight wins, including the Dwyer and Jim Dandy after that maiden loss

Strong Hope?

[blackthroatedwind]

Strong Hope.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Joe What?

[westcoastinvader]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Filthy damn unraced-maiden races. The absolute sewer portion of the sport.

Man, one of my favorite scores of all time was an unraced filly out of Nashua that went off at around 20-1 in the 3rd race at Hialeah back in about 1979.

Maidens, and a short race. Something else I liked about her besides the Nashua-filly connection. It might have been the jockey. In those days, if a jockey by the name of Wayne Crews was on a horse in a short race, the horse ALWAYS deserved a 2nd and 3rd look. Crews came up on the quarter horse tracks and with little notice was the best "gate jockey" in South Florida in those days.

A perfect storm of wagering in those spring days of south Florida.....pre wagering technology.

Anyhow, I had some nice dog track trifecta $$ from the night before, and ended up with a wild $200 on the nose bet on the Nashua filly.

She won of course. Otherwise I wouldn't remember this story 28 years later!

I went and bought a good bottle of liquor with my proceeds, and spent the next three days with the prettiest girl I knew in Fort Lauderdale at the time.

She was a solid favorite.

We ordered in quite a bit that weekend.