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Old 02-03-2007, 08:58 AM
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"GP 9th (5:23pm): 49th Donn H. (Gr. I), 4+, 9f (Leg E-Magna 5)

A. #7 Magna Graduate 4-1: Can he pull off a 'McCann's Mojave' here?"


Steve, I'm sure you know this, but the difference between Magna Grad and Mccann's is Magna just ran a neg 4 tgraph, which makes him the fastest coming in.
I was refering to controlling the front end on a speed favoring track that carries notorious phonies like Magna Graduate, or McCann's Mohave, further than they deserve to go..
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Old 02-03-2007, 09:01 AM
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I understand what you mean, it's just that the neg 4 makes him less phony than the completely ridiculous Mccann's Mojave.. and with that said, how souped up is the rail going to be today?
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Old 02-03-2007, 09:12 AM
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I understand what you mean, it's just that the neg 4 makes him less phony than the completely ridiculous Mccann's Mojave.. and with that said, how souped up is the rail going to be today?
I had Mccann's Mojave (or as I like to call him #8)
the big phony paid $69. you gotta look out for that Golden Gate speed

he was the best of the pace setters and Sweetnothing was looking for excuses.

Last Sat was a dream come true for us longshot players

as for the rail.. I bet they do sup up the rail
they love to help super stars win
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Old 02-03-2007, 09:16 AM
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I had Mccann's Mojave (or as I like to call him #8)
the big phony paid $69. you gotta look out for that Golden Gate speed

he was the best of the pace setters and Sweetnothing was looking for excuses.

Last Sat was a dream come true for us longshot players

as for the rail.. I bet they do sup up the rail
they love to help super stars win
Congrats, Ae, one of my biggest weaknesses as a handicapper is that I am much better at complaining about a bias the next day than I am at taking advantage of it.. gotta work on that!
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Old 02-03-2007, 09:21 AM
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I think you have the 2nd and 3rd leg of your Magna picks mixed up

I have

Santa Anita race 4 as the 3rd Leg and the Gulfstream race8 as the 2nd leg
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Old 02-03-2007, 09:30 AM
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I think you have the 2nd and 3rd leg of your Magna picks mixed up. I have Santa Anita race 4 as the 3rd Leg and the Gulfstream race8 as the 2nd leg
Thx Ae,

Here's the layout from the MEC website..

Saturday, February 3

Leg Track Race Approx. Post (EST)

A Laurel 9 4:40 pm
B Gulfstream 8 4:53 pm
C Santa Anita 4 5:02 pm
D Golden Gate 4 5:16 pm
E Gulfstream 9 5:23 pm
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Old 02-03-2007, 09:33 AM
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just the numbers in my exacta box

Race 1

3-6-7

Race 2

7-6-3

Race 3

2-4-5

Race 4

4-2-7

Race 5

2-3-4

Race 6

8-7-2

Race 7

8-6-2

Race 8

1-3-9

Race 9

1-4-7

Race 10

9-5-1

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Steve - quick question. Can you give the angle for the #4 in the 6th at SA? 5yr old first timer, and McAnally is 5% with first timers. Just wondering if you had something that popped out in the Formulater or if Hammersly had some thoughts on this horse? I am finding others more appealing, like World Asunder, Rowan Charm or Tiznows Vineyard and just dont want to miss out on something at a FAT price. I did hear Hammersly say watch for Cervelo so maybe he had another recommendation on ATRAB that I missed??????

6th: MSW, 6.5f-DHT (DD, P3)

1. #4 Reach for Gold 20-1
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Steve - quick question. Can you give the angle for the #4 in the 6th at SA? 5yr old first timer, and McAnally is 5% with first timers. Just wondering if you had something that popped out in the Formulater or if Hammersly had some thoughts on this horse? I am finding others more appealing, like World Asunder, Rowan Charm or Tiznows Vineyard and just dont want to miss out on something at a FAT price. I did hear Hammersly say watch for Cervelo so maybe he had another recommendation on ATRAB that I missed??????

6th: MSW, 6.5f-DHT (DD, P3)

1. #4 Reach for Gold 20-1
Just a horse that reached out to me..

#1..? By Danehill.. Obviously has had issues being 5, but hasn't missed a morning beat sinced the start of the worktab and had the 1/8 bullet mixed in to boot. McAnally may be only 5% with firsters, but he's 20% first turf. He lays over on breeding, so if anywhere near ready, he seems live to me, and at 20-1 irresistable.
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Man, it was cold as sh*t that day Magna Graduate won the Clark. Which brings me to a question that I've always wanted to ask serious handicappers. Do you guys ever take into consideration the conditions (other than the track surface and, for some guys, wind speed/direction) at the track that day? I mean, I think of it like I would if I had to get out there and run in 80 degrees vs. 25 degrees....I would be more in my stride in 80 degree weather than I would in 25 degree weather. Are horses not that sensitive to the temperature I guess? It just seems like their muscles would be tighter and less limber in cold weather vs. warm. At least that's usually how I am!! So, I guess what I'm saying is, if I'm looking for yet ANOTHER excuse to bet against MG, would the cold weather possibly be one of them??

I have always kind of wondered if MG would have held off Suave in that stretch duel if it would have been more ideal conditions, more condusive to each horse performing to their potential.

Oh, and it's got to suck to be a jock out there on 20-30 degree days...
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Old 02-03-2007, 11:38 AM
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A:4,5,8,10,11,12

B: 1

C:1,4,8,9

D:3,4,5,7

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I understand what you mean, it's just that the neg 4 makes him less phony than the completely ridiculous Mccann's Mojave.. and with that said, how souped up is the rail going to be today?
No reason to think it will be any less advantageous than it's been the last few weeks.

Regarding Magna Graduate, his big fig came on the unique AQU inner and he has NEVER performed when confronted by real horses.. His stakes wins are over the likes of Papi Chullo, Scrappy T and Crown Point.. Before anyone trots out his 'big' Clark win over Perfect Drift and Suave, take a good look at the :48.2 and 1:37.4 mile he carved out there. When confronted by real fractions in last year's Donn, albeit on a sloppy track he may not have cared for, he had no answer when Brass Hat, Pies Prospect and Andromeda's Hero came calling.

All that said, nothing that this barn gets away with surprises me, so I feel compelled to include him though he is utterly ridiculous.
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No reason to think it will be any less advantageous than it's been the last few weeks.

Regarding Magna Graduate, his big fig came on the unique AQU inner and he has NEVER performed when confronted by real horses.. His stakes wins are over the likes of Papi Chullo, Scrappy T and Crown Point.. Before anyone trots out his 'big' Clark win over Perfect Drift and Suave, take a good look at the :48.2 and 1:37.4 mile he carved out there. When confronted by real fractions in last year's Donn, albeit on a sloppy track he may not have cared for, he had no answer when Brass Hat, Pies Prospect and Andromeda's Hero came calling.

All that said, nothing that this barn gets away with surprises me, so I feel compelled to include him though he is utterly ridiculous.
Steve, that was also a great call on Magna Grad, I did not end up using him, although I had a big exacta with AP Arrow under Invasor (yikes).. I saw KM being interviewed after the race, I wonder what he was REALLY thinking about the ride... also, J'ray ran big yesterday with that trip (4 wide through-out), NR had the red sea parted for him to get off the rail top of the stretch, still only won by a nose. J'ray must have earned a huge T-graph fig.
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