Beyers..... I Just Dont Understand Them

[Thoroughbred Fan]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

All the time? It is done, but rarely.

Do you think the figure you mention was more accurate at 102 or 83? I think it was obviously wrong early on, so he fixed it. Should he have left it as is knowing the figure was wrong?

The point is that there is certainly a subjective element to them and they are often a misrepresentation of what actually occurred.

[cmorioles]

I would disagree with often. Most times, I think they do actually represent what happened. However, there is a lot of value in knowing which times they do not. Things like pace, trips, and trainer intent can certainly distort things.

[cakes44]

One thing you are right about PG, is that Strong Contender's 109 in the Dwyer is a joke.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by cakes44

One thing you are right about PG, is that Strong Contender's 109 in the Dwyer is a joke.

Why? I'd like to hear some reasons and what the figure should have been.

[cakes44]

Here's some reasons: doc cheney, da stoops, regent spirit, dontfearthereaper, and keyed entry.

Here's another, he got 3/4 in a leisurely 1:11+ and still finished in 1:45+. A 109 might have been close if it was 2 turns. It should have been a 103 at best IMHO.

[cmorioles]

None of that really explains why you think the figure is wrong.

[Danzig]

i don't understand them either. do you leave them in the box? are they ever going to go up in value? how many are made? after all, if tons are produced, they really have no value as a collectors item....


oh wait. beyers....not breyers.

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

None of that really explains why you think the figure is wrong.

How about this then: The figure sticks out like a turd in a punchbowl in his PPs. I don't think he's capable of running a race that gets credited with a 109 beyer.