ESPN is being very irresponsible

[Danzig]

his breaking thru the gate didn't bode well in the sense of how well he would race after exerting the energy,etc , not moss being some kind of psychic about the subsequent injury.

one had nothing to do with the other. he took a bad step. but hey, for conspiracy theorists, this is another for them.

When Pine Island broke down in the BC Distaff ESPN replayed it twice. I remember posting that I thought it was in very bad taste. They are consistent.

[Gander]

I just dont think its all that interesting a story anymore.

Horse was great and won the Derby. Horse had an unfortunate breakdown and they tried to save him but after many months they finally had to put him down. Its sad, but happens quite a bit in horse racing.

Lets remember his Derby win and move on.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by merasmag

conspiracy? how about common sense and a working knowlege of network media? that race woulda never gone off that quick if it wasn't a live network broadcast...anyone who thinks differently, is, of course, entitled to their opinion....but they're a moron

apparently you missed the fact that dean richardson, as well as the track vet and everyone else said the horse was FINE after the gate incident, and that one had nothing to do with the other.

but hey, i guess if i'm a moron, i'm in good company with them.

[Danzig]

from bloodhorse:
"The stewards always ask me to look at them (when they break through the gate)," said Zipf, a state veterinarian since 1965 and chief veterinarian for the last 20 years.

"I went through the stall he(barbaro) was in and followed him back around. Once he was gathered up (by an outrider) and turned around, the first thing I looked for was head trauma or abrasions or cuts. I then walked behind him as he trotted back to make sure, leg-wise that there was no problem. I could see nothing that would insult his performance; saw no problems with his head or legs. I'm certain there was nothing that would predispose to the injury that occurred in the race."

and this:

Bramlage does not believe the injury occurred when Barbaro broke through the starting gate. "I watched him break through the first time and I watched him break the second time," Bramlage said. "He didn't break with the right hind injury. I would guess that it happened sometime out about a furlong. It took an additional 110 yards to 200 yards for Edgar to get him under control because these don't hurt immediately when they happen. There is so much adrenaline that the horse has no concept. Edgar probably knew before the horse knew that something was wrong. I don't think breaking through the gate the first time had anything to do with this."

from prado:"During the race, he took a bad step and I can't really tell you what happened. I heard a noise about 100 yards into the race and pulled him right up."

this from dr richardson:

Richardson continued to try to put to rest nagging questions about whether Barbaro was injured when he prematurely broke from the Preakness starting gate and had to be reloaded for the race to begin.

"I think it is exceedingly unlikely the horse injured himself breaking from the gate," Richardson said. "The horse jogged back to the gate and broke out of the gate well. This is a single catastrophic accident."

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Zig, consider the source

yeah, i know.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by merasmag

the one u quoted who said he was certain his false break didn't lead to the subsequent injury...bs-i can't believe he said that, because from the breaking thru til the start of the race was less then 2 minutes (probably much less, but i've never watched my tape, if and when i do i can tell u exactly how long) i can picture it like it was yesterday and there is NO WAY any vet had time to examine 1 leg, let alone all 4, b4 that race started

you might want to re-read the post above--for example:



I'm certain there was nothing that would predispose to the injury that occurred in the race."

and of course, you can choose to believe that pigs fly, and aliens are among us--but please, when top vets in the equine field believe it, maybe you should lay off the 'moron' talk.

[Cajungator26]

Deb,

I think it was a lousy coincidence that he broke through the gate and trust the vets when they say his injury had nothing to do with it, but if he would have been my horse, I would have scratched him. JMO.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Deb,

I think it was a lousy coincidence that he broke through the gate and trust the vets when they say his injury had nothing to do with it, but if he would have been my horse, I would have scratched him. JMO.

i agree, it was a lousy coincidence.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by merasmag

i think u are the one that needs to reread things

what about english don't you understand?
plus, i wouldn't trust maryland's vet anymore than the guys that keep killing themselves at the gate there

Please point out the English language.

[sumitas]

I think the gate incident may have cause the initial injury to Barbaro. I don't know that it did but he was rushed back into that gate. He should have been scratched but hind sight is 20-20.