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Old 01-30-2007, 01:32 PM
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Stormello in the top ten!! That is funny.
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Old 01-30-2007, 02:16 PM
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At the risk of sounding ignorant...

Why do you guys dislike Stormello's chances so much? I'm assuming that one reason he was voted so highly is because his dam is a Carson City mare like Barbaro's.
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Old 01-30-2007, 02:22 PM
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Carson City is actually one of the last names you'd want to see in the up-close pedigree of a Derby Prospect....in my opinion.

Barbaro was by Dynaformer (Stamina) and from a female family laced with stamina.

IMO, Stormello is not as talented as Brother Derek was at this point last year, and much like BD, he looks like an early developing type, who's already polished, and doesn't have much room for future improvement.

I believe he's rated that high because he won the Norfolk and Hollywood Futurity--the top two West Coast races for 2yo's around two turns. The same two races Brother Derek won last year.
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Old 01-30-2007, 02:30 PM
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Carson City is actually one of the last names you'd want to see in the up-close pedigree of a Derby Prospect....in my opinion.

Barbaro was by Dynaformer (Stamina) and from a female family laced with stamina.

IMO, Stormello is not as talented as Brother Derek was at this point last year, and much like BD, he looks like an early developing type, who's already polished, and doesn't have much room for future improvement.

I believe he's rated that high because he won the Norfolk and Hollywood Futurity--the top two West Coast races for 2yo's around two turns. The same two races Brother Derek won last year.
Thanks for your thoughts. Precisely why I asked.
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Old 01-30-2007, 02:44 PM
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What's going to be exciting about this is seeing how these horses move down and up the list. Stormello will probably drop down given these thoughts...

As for a t-shirt, when they win a $2 million horse race, the last they want from us is a t-shirt!

But we'll send one anyway.
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Old 01-30-2007, 02:57 PM
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I still love Hard Spun.
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Old 01-30-2007, 04:38 PM
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On record from the week after the BC that Street Sense won't be in the gate on Derby Day and will never run a negative thoro again, definitely not within his 3 yr old season. Too much, too soon. We'll see what happens.
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Old 01-31-2007, 09:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Carson City is actually one of the last names you'd want to see in the up-close pedigree of a Derby Prospect....in my opinion.

Barbaro was by Dynaformer (Stamina) and from a female family laced with stamina.

IMO, Stormello is not as talented as Brother Derek was at this point last year, and much like BD, he looks like an early developing type, who's already polished, and doesn't have much room for future improvement.

I believe he's rated that high because he won the Norfolk and Hollywood Futurity--the top two West Coast races for 2yo's around two turns. The same two races Brother Derek won last year.
Barbaro's dam was an atypical Carson City, in that she was stakes-placed at up to 11f on turf; she took after her mom's family rather than Carson City. Stormello comes from a family developed at Old English Rancho in So Cal that is full of 2yo SWs and sprinter/miler types. Even the cross of Lyphard (sire of second dam) hasn't enabled members of this line to stretch out longer.

I agree that Brother Derek was an early maturing type, who will not be as effective as his fellow gen 2003s catch up in maturity. There is nothing wrong with the horse at 4, he has just lost the advantage he had as a 2yo and early 3yo last year. Given his female line, Stormello may prove to be a similar type.
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