you make the call

[GPK]

Originally Posted by skippy3481

Sounds kinky, i want in...

no way dude...get your married ass outta here for I tell your wife

[Samarta]

Much to my dismay, I'm gonna stay out of the branding conversation and address the 3 year old. You know what, I think it's bs....If the airlines don't want screaming kids then set an age requirement. Now I've flown what I would consider a huge amount of miles and there have been times when I was miserable because of a kid or the "Oh dear" of the person beside me, but the way I look at it is we all have bad days, you just deal with it. Worst flight I was ever on. You couldn't dream this one up. I was on a flight from LA to Tokyo with a stop in Anchorage and Seoul. From LA to Anchorage it was a piece of cake, plenty of room, lots of peace and quiet and then we picked up in Anchorage. The plane was 4 seats, isle, 10 seats, isle, 4 seats. I was in the middle of the 10 seat section and it just so happened that the airline messed up or those were the only seats available but I had a family of 8 or 9 with 4 to my left and the other 4 or 5 to my right. The didn't speak english, which is usually not a big deal unless you are the middle man between all their peanut and snack trading. It was so bad it was funny. I tried to get them to switch seats and they said no. I tried to get another seat on the plane and it was full after the Anchorage pick up. 12 hours of passing peanuts, magazines, or whatever else was catching their attention at the time. I think back and still laugh about it.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Samarta

You know what, I think it's bs....If the airlines don't want screaming kids then set an age requirement.

But if a 40 year old man refused to take his seat before takeoff and was climbing underneath the seats -- and then his friend asked the flight attendant if the 40 year old man could sit on his lap.....

.....do you think they would have let the 40 year old man remain on the flight? Or more importantly, would you call that "bs" too?

It was pretty clear that they didn't get kicked off because the kid was annoying, but because the kid was not playing by the rules. The kid sits in the assigned seat during takeoff or they don't fly, I do it, you do it, everyone does it.

Rules are rules, and these days when it comes to air travel, you either follow them or...you rent a car.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Samarta

Much to my dismay, I'm gonna stay out of the branding conversation and address the 3 year old. You know what, I think it's bs....If the airlines don't want screaming kids then set an age requirement. Now I've flown what I would consider a huge amount of miles and there have been times when I was miserable because of a kid or the "Oh dear" of the person beside me, but the way I look at it is we all have bad days, you just deal with it. Worst flight I was ever on. You couldn't dream this one up. I was on a flight from LA to Tokyo with a stop in Anchorage and Seoul. From LA to Anchorage it was a piece of cake, plenty of room, lots of peace and quiet and then we picked up in Anchorage. The plane was 4 seats, isle, 10 seats, isle, 4 seats. I was in the middle of the 10 seat section and it just so happened that the airline messed up or those were the only seats available but I had a family of 8 or 9 with 4 to my left and the other 4 or 5 to my right. The didn't speak english, which is usually not a big deal unless you are the middle man between all their peanut and snack trading. It was so bad it was funny. I tried to get them to switch seats and they said no. I tried to get another seat on the plane and it was full after the Anchorage pick up. 12 hours of passing peanuts, magazines, or whatever else was catching their attention at the time. I think back and still laugh about it.

the risk of having screaming kids is one thing....FAA Rules and regs regarding take-off is another. you have to be in your seat and belted--they delayed for 15 minutes while the little darling slapped mommy and daddy around and played hide and seek. why should over 100 others be kept waiting while junior has a fit? they did the right thing, it's the same that would be done about any unruly passenger-regardless of age.


can't wait til she's 15....

[The Bid]

I would rather sit next to a screaming child on a flight as opposed to a fat woman.

Kids dont bother me nearly as much as sloppy pigs, or stinky grown ups.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by The Bid

I would rather sit next to a screaming child on a flight as opposed to a fat woman.

Kids dont bother me nearly as much as sloppy pigs, or stinky grown ups.

my daughter had a band concert. we get there a bit early, and choose sits in the middle of nowhere. a heavy-set woman came and flopped down right in front of us--apparently she didn't have time to shower beforehand, so she doused herself liberally with perfume.
i had to move. too much cologne gives me a raging headache.

[Samarta]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

the risk of having screaming kids is one thing....FAA Rules and regs regarding take-off is another. you have to be in your seat and belted--they delayed for 15 minutes while the little darling slapped mommy and daddy around and played hide and seek. why should over 100 others be kept waiting while junior has a fit? they did the right thing, it's the same that would be done about any unruly passenger-regardless of age.


can't wait til she's 15....

I'm not suggesting safety issues or regs should be overlooked, I was simply saying that I understand the screaming kid thing.

[GenuineRisk]

I think AirTran did the safe thing. What I don't get is why the parents couldn't sit on either side of her and physically hold her in that seat. How big do three-year-olds get these days?

But, I'm grouchy about small kids on airplane flights, anyway. I didn't get to take an airplane flight until I was 11, and even then I was weepy on the descent (my Dad hadn't thought to tell us about the pressure change and it HURT. I've never gotten on a plane since without chewing gum to keep my ears popping on the way down).

With the restaurant thing- my problem is when parents of small children take the kids to upscale restaurants. I have no problem with screaming kids at Olive Garden, or Red Lobster, or Chevy's or whatever, just as I have no problem with screaming kids at a 2PM G-rated matinee (in fact, I think better to see a kids' film with actual kids in the audience- their reactions are usually as much fun as the film!). But small kids at a fancy place, or at a 10PM R-rated film make me nuts, because I feel it's as though the parents don't want to accept that maybe they have to make some sacrifices during the kids' first few years, and not get to go to grown-up things unless they can find a sitter or until the kids are old enough to handle it, you know?

[GPK]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

I think AirTran did the safe thing. What I don't get is why the parents couldn't sit on either side of her and physically hold her in that seat. How big do three-year-olds get these days?

But, I'm grouchy about small kids on airplane flights, anyway. I didn't get to take an airplane flight until I was 11, and even then I was weepy on the descent (my Dad hadn't thought to tell us about the pressure change and it HURT. I've never gotten on a plane since without chewing gum to keep my ears popping on the way down).

With the restaurant thing- my problem is when parents of small children take the kids to upscale restaurants. I have no problem with screaming kids at Olive Garden, or Red Lobster, or Chevy's or whatever, just as I have no problem with screaming kids at a 2PM G-rated matinee (in fact, I think better to see a kids' film with actual kids in the audience- their reactions are usually as much fun as the film!). But small kids at a fancy place, or at a 10PM R-rated film make me nuts, because I feel it's as though the parents don't want to accept that maybe they have to make some sacrifices during the kids' first few years, and not get to go to grown-up things unless they can find a sitter or until the kids are old enough to handle it, you know?

Nicole, love, PLEASE tell me you dont eat at Red Lobster....place is awful

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by T3B

Nicole, love, PLEASE tell me you dont eat at Red Lobster....place is awful

Ha! So true. I used to think it was so good when I was younger and we'd sometimes go there for "special" occasions.

I was in the Akron area for a music festival last summer and my friend from high school and I decided to go out for a real dinner...and we chose there.

The fish was disgusting, everything was terrible, even the salad. The biscuits are the only redeeming quality about the place.

It was about 1% as good as I remembered it. I'll never go there again, especially when there's a Real Seafood Co. in Ann Arbor.

[Buffymommy]

Originally Posted by T3B

Nicole, love, PLEASE tell me you dont eat at Red Lobster....place is awful

They are sea rapists and I will not eat there.

[Buffymommy]

Originally Posted by Samarta

Much to my dismay, I'm gonna stay out of the branding conversation and address the 3 year old. You know what, I think it's bs....If the airlines don't want screaming kids then set an age requirement. Now I've flown what I would consider a huge amount of miles and there have been times when I was miserable because of a kid or the "Oh dear" of the person beside me, but the way I look at it is we all have bad days, you just deal with it. Worst flight I was ever on. You couldn't dream this one up. I was on a flight from LA to Tokyo with a stop in Anchorage and Seoul. From LA to Anchorage it was a piece of cake, plenty of room, lots of peace and quiet and then we picked up in Anchorage. The plane was 4 seats, isle, 10 seats, isle, 4 seats. I was in the middle of the 10 seat section and it just so happened that the airline messed up or those were the only seats available but I had a family of 8 or 9 with 4 to my left and the other 4 or 5 to my right. The didn't speak english, which is usually not a big deal unless you are the middle man between all their peanut and snack trading. It was so bad it was funny. I tried to get them to switch seats and they said no. I tried to get another seat on the plane and it was full after the Anchorage pick up. 12 hours of passing peanuts, magazines, or whatever else was catching their attention at the time. I think back and still laugh about it.

It wasn't because the kid was screaming and yelling, BUT because the kid wouldn't sit in her seat. My mom would have grabbed my ear, sat me down and buckled my seat belt. I wouldn't have dared move for the entire flight!

I do say I can appreciate your story about being the "middleman". I had a three and a half hour flight between an old couple. It was quite comical now. Everytime I tried to fall asleep one would need something and bump me in the process of handing it to the other.