California moves forward on stricter drug penalties

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Scud

Clenbutorol is used to drop water weight in a cutting cycle, its not used to add mass, or strength for bodybuilders. Its strictly for reducing.

You do crash off of clen however, and I think horses crash off it as well.

Come to think of it Clen and DNP would be great for a rider to use to reduce, not a female though. The DNP is too strong, but the clen if used the right way is useful.

that's not actually true in humans...because the drug will stop working over time...but it will also phuck up your metabolism and consequently you gain weight and can't lose it...not to mention that in addition to buring excess fat there is evidence that it also burns excess protein which will actually contribute to muscle wasting, and of course long term use causes collagen fibers to infiltrate heart muscle and cause it to stiffen leading to reduced cardiac output and potential heart attack...bodybuilders who use it don't really understand the long term potential effects.

and the same could be said for horsemen who overuse it....

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by paisjpq

that's not actually true in humans...because the drug will stop working over time...but it will also phuck up your metabolism and consequently you gain weight and can't lose it...not to mention that in addition to buring excess fat there is evidence that it also burns excess protein which will actually contribute to muscle wasting, and of course long term use causes collagen fibers to infiltrate heart muscle and cause it to stiffen leading to reduced cardiac output and potential heart attack...bodybuilders who use it don't really understand the long term potential effects.

and the same could be said for horsemen who overuse it....

This is what happens when they take away their ephedrine!

[The Bid]

PJ,

Most people using that stuff are willing to risk the side effects for the quick results.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by The Bid

PJ,

Most people using that stuff are willing to risk the side effects for the quick results.

I know...true for the beauty queen, bodybuilders and some horse trainers...

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Finally, someone steps up and has the balls to do something about the usage of anabolic steroids, which I believe is extremely detrimental to the health of these animals.

However, I do not believe that there should be a complete ban on steroids, as they can be extremely useful for those horses that are recovering from injuries and surgeries. In fact, we just had them perscribed for a horse recovering from a horrible injury at the stable.