Holiday Week/Weekend Stakes Beyers

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Cyberknife deserves at least some discussion in this. Isn’t he the 3yo champ free and clear if the Dirt Mile goes his way?

No. He got drowned by Epicenter and proved inferior to Taiba in their two meetings. The BC Dirt Mile is pretty much an irrelevant race ( even though he ran extremely well ).

He might be third over Modern Games.

Don't worry, Al will still ( eventually ) speak to you if you're honest.

I'd write more on this subject, but I intentionally don't have a further opinion!

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

I'd write more on this subject, but I intentionally don't have a further opinion!

I would rather read a posted opinion, even if I thought it was silly vs. reading a cryptic post on how I can't read it.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I would rather read a posted opinion, even if I thought it was silly vs. reading a cryptic post on how I can't read it.

It's not cryptic. It's a shot at me for saying that I intentionally don't vote for the Eclipse awards. He's pathetic and desperate for attention.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

It's not cryptic. It's a shot at me for saying that I intentionally don't vote for the Eclipse awards. He's pathetic and desperate for attention.

You'd think his scumbag move of chastising Bejarano on mic a few weeks back would have given him enough attention for awhile.

Or when he was going to fleece people out of $75 for his BS Breeders Cup trip notes....only to get called on it and make up some silly story about how it was all for charity. No bottom with Vic. Just when you think he's really oyt his foot in it, he has a way of surprising you.

This is what I always find so fascinating about Vic. No one cries victim more than him, but many times, he's the first to start things. If there was an eclipse for scumbag of the year, he'd win in a landslide every year.

I'm just glad he gives me so many opportunities to highlight what an awful person he is.

Cue the tome about how I don't know him (but everything I say is 100% true) and all he wants to do is talk racing with real fans. He's posted that so many times he should be able to just copy and paste it.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

You'd think his scumbag move of chastising Bejarano on mic a few weeks back would have given him enough attention for awhile.

Or when he was going to fleece people out of $75 for his BS Breeders Cup trip notes....only to get called on it and make up some silly story about how it was all for charity. No bottom with Vic. Just when you think he's really oyt his foot in it, he has a way of surprising you.

This is what I always find so fascinating about Vic. No one cries victim more than him, but many times, he's the first to start things. If there was an eclipse for scumbag of the year, he'd win in a landslide every year.

I'm just glad he gives me so many opportunities to highlight what an awful person he is.

Cue the tome about how I don't know him (but everything I say is 100% true) and all he wants to do is talk racing with real fans. He's posted that so many times he should be able to just copy and paste it.

If you didn't know he was a real person, you would suspect he was a very clever bot that was created to show how successful pandering can be on the internet. It's kind of remarkable. Generally, though, he's a good litmus test for posters. Never a great sign when someone is fooled by his ridiculous behavior.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

If you didn't know he was a real person, you would suspect he was a very clever bot that was created to show how successful pandering can be on the internet. It's kind of remarkable. Generally, though, he's a good litmus test for posters. Never a great sign when someone is fooled by his ridiculous behavior.

Ever notice I NEVER say anything personal about you? Don't say you're a POS or a bad person or anything else. You're incapable of making a post without a full psycho analysis of the PERSON who made the post. Not what he or she said but who they are for saying it. I get called things that would make people think I'm the anti-christ. But I just keep trudging forward sharing takes and picking a few winners. Someone in this thread, NOT ME, suggested you might be overly sensitive. Earlier a smart person said "me thinks thou doth protest too much" Might be something to that.

As for crying for attention. Without you and DA-WHATEVER I would be getting a tiny fraction of attention. Why not just ignore me? And I'll do the same of you two.

Originally Posted by Dahoss

You'd think his scumbag move of chastising Bejarano on mic a few weeks back would have given him enough attention for awhile.

Or when he was going to fleece people out of $75 for his BS Breeders Cup trip notes....only to get called on it and make up some silly story about how it was all for charity. No bottom with Vic. Just when you think he's really oyt his foot in it, he has a way of surprising you.

This is what I always find so fascinating about Vic. No one cries victim more than him, but many times, he's the first to start things. If there was an eclipse for scumbag of the year, he'd win in a landslide every year.

I'm just glad he gives me so many opportunities to highlight what an awful person he is.

Cue the tome about how I don't know him (but everything I say is 100% true) and all he wants to do is talk racing with real fans. He's posted that so many times he should be able to just copy and paste it.

I already have TWO Eclipse awards. A third would just be showing off.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

I already have TWO Eclipse awards. A third would just be showing off.

But no one cares Vic. Literally no one other than you knows that or cares. You’re so desperate.

Originally Posted by Dahoss

You'd think his scumbag move of chastising Bejarano on mic a few weeks back would have given him enough attention for awhile.

Or when he was going to fleece people out of $75 for his BS Breeders Cup trip notes....only to get called on it and make up some silly story about how it was all for charity. No bottom with Vic. Just when you think he's really oyt his foot in it, he has a way of surprising you.

This is what I always find so fascinating about Vic. No one cries victim more than him, but many times, he's the first to start things. If there was an eclipse for scumbag of the year, he'd win in a landslide every year.

I'm just glad he gives me so many opportunities to highlight what an awful person he is.

Cue the tome about how I don't know him (but everything I say is 100% true) and all he wants to do is talk racing with real fans. He's posted that so many times he should be able to just copy and paste it.

Even if it was true that I was charging for the trip notes. IT'S NOT AND NEVER WAS. The Chaplaincy was informed I was doing it in September. Not likely they'd lie about it. How would it have been FLEECING? My trip notes are pretty good and IMO well worth the price given the amount of work I put into them.

They helped me to a 5th place finish in the BCBC and a return of $165,000. That was preceded by finishes in 13th, 9th and 7th place.

BTW I thought your daily handicapping during Saratoga was quite good. That said I'd still be happy to go head to head vs you for any amount you feel is appropriate.

Or better yet. Loser has to agree to walk away from ALL social media for life. You man enough to risk your $$$ or DT life? Doubt it. Too much fun trying to make each and every person you deal with feel horrible. @thetriptracker

[Alabama Stakes]

Happy new year

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

Even if it was true that I was charging for the trip notes. IT'S NOT AND NEVER WAS. The Chaplaincy was informed I was doing it in September. Not likely they'd lie about it. How would it have been FLEECING? My trip notes are pretty good and IMO well worth the price given the amount of work I put into them.

They helped me to a 5th place finish in the BCBC and a return of $165,000. That was preceded by finishes in 13th, 9th and 7th place.

BTW I thought your daily handicapping during Saratoga was quite good. That said I'd still be happy to go head to head vs you for any amount you feel is appropriate.

Or better yet. Loser has to agree to walk away from ALL social media for life. You man enough to risk your $$$ or DT life? Doubt it. Too much fun trying to make each and every person you deal with feel horrible. @thetriptracker

This was like a hybrid of your copy and paste. Again, no one cares Vic. Your trip notes were garbage. Absolutely nothing could be gleaned from viewing them and no one with a brain didn’t see you got caught and tried to save face.

Let’s talk about the Bejarano situation. You again tried to save face, but as usual, because of your massive ego, you were unable to own that you were wrong and pandered to morons. Everyone here remembers your “generational” comment and how you could never actually admit you were wrong. It’s a personality flaw. I know them well. You idolize Tom Durkin right? Did he ever chastise a rider on mic? Why do you think that was? You think you’re bigger than the game. You’re an arrogant POS and ultimately you’re fake.

Every once in awhile (like now when you thought mentioning my Twitter handle would be some gotcha moment) we get the real you. Not the pandering you, but the real Vic. That person seems okay. Not sure why you spend so much time and energy trying to be something you aren’t but I have a few ideas.

I’m also not sure why you haven’t blocked me by now. You did on Twitter after the lashing Joe Santos gave you. Again I have a few ideas. You have a legion of morons who think you’re pretty special. Guys married to women who look like Scott Baio, guys who work at Mountaineer and think they’re Joe Hirsch reincarnated…you get the point. But I see you for what you are. Always have. And that really bothers you. Deep down inside you want me to like you sooooooo bad. For me, that’s better than winning any head to head will ever be.

Straight and strong!

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

Even if it was true that I was charging for the trip notes. IT'S NOT AND NEVER WAS. The Chaplaincy was informed I was doing it in September. Not likely they'd lie about it. How would it have been FLEECING? My trip notes are pretty good and IMO well worth the price given the amount of work I put into them.

They helped me to a 5th place finish in the BCBC and a return of $165,000. That was preceded by finishes in 13th, 9th and 7th place.

BTW I thought your daily handicapping during Saratoga was quite good. That said I'd still be happy to go head to head vs you for any amount you feel is appropriate.

Or better yet. Loser has to agree to walk away from ALL social media for life. You man enough to risk your $$$ or DT life? Doubt it. Too much fun trying to make each and every person you deal with feel horrible. @thetriptracker

You're an outstanding handicapper. What is weird is I am jealous of your success in this space. Typically, I don't have a jealous bone in my being; I am thrilled when Nick's horse wins, or Andy's horse at 8/1 runs tremendous, or when Scully(never met, never communicated with) hits the pick "whatever". For some reason, I am jealous of your expertise and success in handicapping, and I guess it says more about me than you.

[blackthroatedwind]

Someone needs a timeout.

[Conrad]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

It's not cryptic. It's a shot at me for saying that I intentionally don't vote for the Eclipse awards. He's pathetic and desperate for attention.

Too sensitive, you

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Conrad

Too sensitive, you

This doesn't make any sense.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

This doesn't make any sense.

I think he's saying you're an opinionated guy who throws barbs back and forth on your shows and isn't sensitive about it.

Especially since New Yorkers are famous for not being too sensitive about anything.

Can have a knock down drag out argument one minute and a beer the next.

That's how I read what he was saying.

Can I opine that or is it pandering?

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

It's not cryptic. It's a shot at me for saying that I intentionally don't vote for the Eclipse awards. He's pathetic and desperate for attention.

Nyra - Andy we don’t want you voting for the eclipse awards
Andy - Sir Yes Sir . Whatever you say boss.

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

Nyra - Andy we don’t want you voting for the eclipse awards
Andy - Sir Yes Sir . Whatever you say boss.

Doubt it.