Get us out...or CNN out

[MinnSkinny]

Win ugly, or gtf out. Let's decide before any more kids are lost for no good reason. Never thought I would see it this way, but there is too much indecision for me to see it any other way, at least for now.[/quote]

Wow, I thought this thread had run its course, and it probably has or should, but I want to clarify what I was trying to say. Stretch, Risk, et al, I said "win ugly", and that's different in my own mind than win "dirty". I guess ugly to me means annihalation of the enemy factions, beyond recovery, with no means of further reprisal, and with no more risk to the Iraqi population of civilians, women, and children. Total surrender,and probably impossible to achieve. Win Dirty, as win ugly was interpreted, must mean rape to some, and that is not what I meant. I could not support that, ever, under any circumstance.