So, Derby Week has finally arrived, Look for all Extras Here

[cal828]

Originally Posted by JolyB

Post position draw will be on Monday (didn't it used to be on Wednesday in past years?) for both the Oaks and the Derby. After seeing exactly who will be running and from where, we will have plenty of time to overanalyze the race.

Knowing that a Hudson River Eel pizza is on the line, I'll 'cap extra diligently. Just hope it is from that part of the Hudson that has been cleaned up from the hazardous waste discharges of years gone by.

Ever since the Lexington, I've been trying to talk myself into believing that Tawny Port is truly fast enough to compete with this group. At this point, I like the horse and connections (and the likely price) very much, but know that he will need to run even better than his previous races. I do think that there is some upside to him. Hmmmm.

I liked Tawny in the Lex, but as the talking heads say, "the waters get a bit deeper here." I think the interesting thing to me is I wasn't all that impressed with Cyberknife because the Arkansas Derby seemed to be one of the slower editions of that race in recent memory and his stablemate Zozos got a better figure in the Louisiana Derby racing at nearly the distance of the Derby beaten only a couple of lengths by Epicenter and I think that one set a track record, so how bad can Zozos be? But here's the thing that might give a person pause on Zozos and Tawny, Geroux rode all 3 and he goes with Cyberknife which totally muddies the picture on the Brad Cox runners.

[DonGuido]

Originally Posted by cal828

I liked Tawny in the Lex, but as the talking heads say, "the waters get a bit deeper here." I think the interesting thing to me is I wasn't all that impressed with Cyberknife because the Arkansas Derby seemed to be one of the slower editions of that race in recent memory and his stablemate Zozos got a better figure in the Louisiana Derby racing at nearly the distance of the Derby beaten only a couple of lengths by Epicenter and I think that one set a track record, so how bad can Zozos be? But here's the thing that might give a person pause on Zozos and Tawny, Geroux rode all 3 and he goes with Cyberknife which totally muddies the picture on the Brad Cox runners.

Cal, the talking heads couldn't have said this any better. Like usual I'll study the PP's like I do every race and see how they run. Like going into the Super Bowl, the College Championships or the World Series . . . it's just another ball game.

[RUFFIAN]

Dreams of a Kentucky Derby (G1) victory were dashed for some and sprang to life for others May 2, when Un Ojo was declared out of the race due to a bruised foot, allowing Ethereal Road to enter the body of the 20-horse field.

[cal828]

Originally Posted by RUFFIAN

Dreams of a Kentucky Derby (G1) victory were dashed for some and sprang to life for others May 2, when Un Ojo was declared out of the race due to a bruised foot, allowing Ethereal Road to enter the body of the 20-horse field.

Not too surprising. I'm surprised the field has held up this well. Seems like in most years 3 or 4 will be lost in the final couple of weeks. Must admit, I didn't think he had much of a chance to win it, but long shots, especially those closer types like him often fill out one of the next 3 slots after the winner which makes picking the verticals almost impossible, at least for this player.

[cal828]

Originally Posted by DonGuido

Cal, the talking heads couldn't have said this any better. Like usual I'll study the PP's like I do every race and see how they run. Like going into the Super Bowl, the College Championships or the World Series . . . it's just another ball game.

Whatever floats your boat on those deep waters. In some respects, it is the same as any other race, but it is different in one unique way and that is the field is almost twice as big as any other race in North America which might be a reason to approach it differently in handicapping and betting or maybe not? Most of us here tend to do as Darryl Royal once said and "dance with the girl what brung us."

[RUFFIAN]

~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OR…
My so-called “ Method “ has worked for me several times 🏆

~ ~ ~ 💘 THE NAME, THE SIRE, 💓 GRAY💖

THUNDER GULCH 26/1
GIACOMO 50/1 *** GRAY SON OF HOLY BULL 🖤
CHARISMATIC ❣️Love The Name

Just To Name A Few

I would have to go back to my list of winners to see who else I add
~~~~~~~ Memory is not my best attribute 🙄

[cal828]

Originally Posted by RUFFIAN

~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OR…
My so-called “ Method “ has worked for me several times 🏆

~ ~ ~ 💘 THE NAME, THE SIRE, 💓 GRAY💖

THUNDER GULCH 26/1
GIACOMO 50/1 *** GRAY SON OF HOLY BULL 🖤
CHARISMATIC ❣️Love The Name

Just To Name A Few

I would have to go back to my list of winners to see who else I add
~~~~~~~ Memory is not my best attribute 🙄

Sorry, ma'am, but most of us have to forego your dark arts methodology. Especially, if we want to save our eternal souls and spare ourselves the need for an exorcism.

[RUFFIAN]

{ CAL }
…. “ Sorry, ma'am, but most of us have to forego
your dark arts methodology.
Especially, if we want to save our eternal souls
and spare ourselves the need for an exorcism. “
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

FIRST OFF

U Can Call Me Bych, U Can Call Me Wych ~
~ ~ ~ But …. NO WAY Call Me Ma’am 😡

Also
I can channel Marie Laveau the VooDoo Queen 🧟*♂️
~~~ and put a spell on you if you don’t watch out 🙅🏼*♀️

🐯 MAY THE PURRRRR BE WITH YOU 🐯

[cal828]

[quote=RUFFIAN;1163904]{ CAL }
…. “ Sorry, ma'am, but most of us have to forego
your dark arts methodology.
Especially, if we want to save our eternal souls
and spare ourselves the need for an exorcism. “
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

FIRST OFF

U Can Call Me Bych, U Can Call Me Wych ~
~ ~ ~ But …. NO WAY Call Me Ma’am ��

Also
I can channel Marie Laveau the VooDoo Queen ��*♂️
~~~ and put a spell on you if you don’t watch out ����*♀️

I think you already did. You know I'm just joking. Actually, I admire your abilities and wish I had them. You definitely have that "Hotel California" vibe going for you in your handicapping. In the meantime, I'll just have to stick with my silly old reasoned approach which probably doesn't make much sense in a sport that often seems unreasonable.