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Old 01-25-2022, 10:26 PM
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Wonder if Rollo will even bother tuning in to watch the World Cup? Knowing how much he detests horses like Life is Good and Flightline, I'm guessing he won't watch. Too bad it couldn't be Rombauer vs Knicks Go. That's what everyone would rather see.
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Old 01-25-2022, 11:13 PM
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Wonder if Rollo will even bother tuning in to watch the World Cup? Knowing how much he detests horses like Life is Good and Flightline, I'm guessing he won't watch. Too bad it couldn't be Rombauer vs Knicks Go. That's what everyone would rather see.
You're like one of those people that pays someone to beat them up:-)
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Old 01-26-2022, 04:53 AM
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Wonder if Rollo will even bother tuning in to watch the World Cup?
I guess you're excited to see Knicks Go and Life is Good duke it out. Especially after having your appetite whetted this past weekend by that epic renewal of the Louisiana Handicap starring Mandaloun--the best horse never to actually finish first in a race of consequence--and Midnight Whatever--the gamest horse in America according to some even though the reality is he would find a way to lose a walkover. It was like a replay of all those great duels in all those Grade 3s last winter at Fair Grounds when they were 3yos. Hopefully they keep it going so we can see some real showdowns in the Cornhusker and maybe even the Lukas Classic...

But every Pegasus Faux Cup--with the exception of the 2021 Pegasus Allowance Race---has been billed as a virtual match race and it never materializes.

In 2017, fan favorite California Chrome never showed up against one of the many "best horse since Spectacular Bid" con jobs in Arrogate.

In 2018, the speedy and apparently juiced Sharp Azteca couldn't get near HOY Gun Runner.

In 2019, Accelerate--the only horse in history to beat Pavel a dozen times--got drilled by erstwhile miler City of Light.

In 2020, Reformed claimer Tax along with his unpaid groom stumbled behind New Mexico AND Oklahoma also-ran Mucho Gusto.

The only thing the 2022 edition has to offer is the potentiality that both favorites will run out...

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Knowing how much he detests horses like Life is Good and Flightline, I'm guessing he won't watch. Too bad it couldn't be Rombauer vs Knicks Go. That's what everyone would rather see.
Actually, I'd rather just see the old Donn Handicap which used to draw a strong, competitive field every year. Not sure why anyone would prefer a fake 2-horse race with a fake purse topped off with a bunch of allowance horses. But to each his own.

On the positive side, I will say that this race is loaded with interesting possibilities in the event that both the official 2021 HOY and the "real" 2021 HOY get beat.

If that happens, wouldn't it be gravy WITH a cherry on top (sounds like something Stronach would concoct) to see 2 Godolphin cast-offs (Endorsed and Commandeer) complete the exacta? They're both going to get the setups of their lives on Saturday. Endorsed was poorly managed by Mott and stretches back out where he probably should have been all along for Mike Maker. Commandeer got gelded, sold, pulled off the Arlington polytrack (where he was making odd middle moves), and has done no wrong at long odds for his new connections.

The only thing that I don't want to see, although I'd laugh if it happened, is for Stilleto Boy to win.

Wouldn't want the bloated aura around Flightline to get any bigger, especially since his connections probably have no intention of ever running him against either Knicks Go or Life is Good. Plus, they might retire him without racing him ever again if a Prairie Meadows also-ran that he demolished beats 2 of the best horses in training.
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Old 01-26-2022, 07:55 AM
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I laughed out loud at “Reformed claimer Tax along with his unpaid groom.”
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Old 01-26-2022, 08:46 AM
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I laughed out loud at "the only horse to beat Pavel a dozen times"

Special thanks to King Glorious for poking the bear
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Old 01-26-2022, 11:04 PM
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I laughed out loud at "the only horse to beat Pavel a dozen times"

Special thanks to King Glorious for poking the bear
He’s a good guy and I like him and thoroughly enjoy his posts but I think he’s full of **** if he acts like he’s not extremely interested in this matchup.
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Old 01-27-2022, 07:25 AM
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For me personally I’m more interested in watching the turf race. I’m curious to see just how good Never Surprised is.

I can’t explain why but there’s nothing about Knick’s Go that excites me as a bettor and fan of the sport. Maybe because he miraculously improved leaps and bounds in a new barn. Life Is Good is a tremendous horse but his owners are kind of repulsive and I’m just not looking forward to him retiring in the next few months for a minor setback. I think we’ve all seen this play out before.

It’s the nature of the game now and maybe I’m being a curmudgeon but the 1995 Donn this is not.
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Old 01-27-2022, 02:58 PM
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He’s a good guy and I like him and thoroughly enjoy his posts but I think he’s full of **** if he acts like he’s not extremely interested in this matchup.
If I'm interested it is only because I think both horses will be exposed; just like last year's Saudi Cup. Of course, we may see a scam like in the 2004 BC Classic.

There is really no interest in Knicks Go; he was already exposed multiple times last year and he won't start ever again after Saturday (at least not in NA). Poor man's Black Tie Affair.

Life is Good has done nothing to warrant his reputation. The only race of consequence he was in, he lost, although to be fair he had excuses (layoff, genius jockey). But either way, he's not much better than Jackie's Warrior. Ginobili came back to get massacred by a NY-bred in the Cigar Mile; Snapper Sinclair and Eight Rings have been buried in multiple starts since the BC Undercard Mile. If he ran in the Classic, he would have done no better than Uncle Mo or French Deputy. If he had a real career I doubt he would do much more than a horse like Honour and Glory. Poor man's Forestry.
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Old 01-27-2022, 03:20 PM
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I can't believe Honour and Glory caught some shrapnel.

He was a real horse at least and actually ran.
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Old 01-29-2022, 08:19 AM
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If I'm interested it is only because I think both horses will be exposed; just like last year's Saudi Cup. Of course, we may see a scam like in the 2004 BC Classic.

There is really no interest in Knicks Go; he was already exposed multiple times last year and he won't start ever again after Saturday (at least not in NA). Poor man's Black Tie Affair.

Life is Good has done nothing to warrant his reputation. The only race of consequence he was in, he lost, although to be fair he had excuses (layoff, genius jockey). But either way, he's not much better than Jackie's Warrior. Ginobili came back to get massacred by a NY-bred in the Cigar Mile; Snapper Sinclair and Eight Rings have been buried in multiple starts since the BC Undercard Mile. If he ran in the Classic, he would have done no better than Uncle Mo or French Deputy. If he had a real career I doubt he would do much more than a horse like Honour and Glory. Poor man's Forestry.
Funny that you say Knicks Go was exposed multiple times last year (I kind of agree a little) but then the horses you say are the real horses, he kicked their asses on multiple occasions too.
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