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Old 02-01-2021, 03:33 PM
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You assume the reason I want to know the number. You assume what kind of comment I would make about it. Is it a silly assumption? Perhaps not, based on the long time we've interacted on boards, as you've said. But, it's still an assumption nonetheless. If you're right, and I comment on them and say something that you think is ridiculous, by all means, let me have it. You've never held back before. I really just was curious.
You're just mad because I beat you to the punch. Admit it:-)

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Old 02-01-2021, 03:40 PM
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Old 02-01-2021, 03:46 PM
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You're just mad because I beat you to the punch. Admit it:-)

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Old 02-01-2021, 03:48 PM
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You're just mad because I beat you to the punch. Admit it:-)
The irony is that Loud Mouth was the only stakes winner of the 3 heading into Saturday...
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Old 02-01-2021, 03:53 PM
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The irony is that Loud Mouth was the only stakes winner of the 3 heading into Saturday...
I thought it was a really good race. A head and a nose separated the top three finishers at the wire and they all battled gamely for the last quarter-mile and the figure indicates that it was a pretty decent race.
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Old 02-01-2021, 04:03 PM
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I thought it was a really good race. A head and a nose separated the top three finishers at the wire and they all battled gamely for the last quarter-mile and the figure indicates that it was a pretty decent race.
Regardless of the figures, I don't have high hopes for Express Train, Medina Spirit, Parsimony, or Speed Pass going forward.

Loud Mouth is a solid mid-level claimer who can collect some Cal-bred stakes money (or better) on a good day since the line between a top class sprinter and his type is very narrow (at least in CA anyways).
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Old 02-01-2021, 04:10 PM
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Regardless of the figures, I don't have high hopes for Express Train, Medina Spirit, Parsimony, or Speed Pass going forward.

Loud Mouth is a solid mid-level claimer who can collect some Cal-bred stakes money (or better) on a good day since the line between a top class sprinter and his type is very narrow (at least in CA anyways).
Neither do I. If anything, it made me feel even more unsure about the quality of Life is Good.

I don't think there is much of a line anywhere between the stakes horses and lower levels anymore.
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Express Train is going to win a 10-furlong Grade I. He was completely uncomfortable for a full half-mile in that race and still won easily. No question that he has a bunch of untapped potential.
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Old 02-01-2021, 11:35 PM
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Express Train is going to win a 10-furlong Grade I. He was completely uncomfortable for a full half-mile in that race and still won easily. No question that he has a bunch of untapped potential.
I don't think he was uncomfortable so much as loaded down the backstretch. That said, the race Saturday was basically a 2nd condition allowance contest.

Express Train was inexplicably tossed on to the turf amidst his fall comeback (could have run in the Native Diver, Clark, Fayette, or another allowance) which fortunately did not derail his dirt form.

There are just 4 Grade 1s on dirt carded at 10 furlongs in this country outside the BC Classic. The good news is that 2 of them are at this same meet, one of which is in less than 5 weeks, so there is a good chance he will only have to beat Tizamagician and Idol again, presuming the real horses await the Dubai World Cup. Last year's Big Cap runner-up Multiplier is prepping in a $50K claimer next week so there's a chance they may need more than half of the starting gate if he shows up, too.

Also, Shirreffs has Express Train's stablemate Midcourt waiting in the wings but perhaps he'll await the Gold Cup since he didn't start Saturday. By then the waters might get deeper if Combatant and Campaign are back in full swing.

Restrainedvengence is also tightening the screws but I'm not sure if he's going to point for the Big Cap or the Curribot Handicap at Sunland Park...
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