Weekend Stakes Beyers

[freddymo]

Maker really is a miracle worker with these claimers that he turns into stakes winners. Maybe I am naive, but I think he isn't cheating I guess he just knows what type of horse to look for that can run a distance of ground on turf

[jms62]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Maker really is a miracle worker with these claimers that he turns into stakes winners. Maybe I am naive, but I think he isn't cheating I guess he just knows what type of horse to look for that can run a distance of ground on turf

Naive? LOL. Game needs to PURGE trainers that cheat and owners that Enable it while hiding behind the wall of plausible deniability. I am sure you agree with me 100%

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by jms62

Naive? LOL. Game needs to PURGE trainers that cheat and owners that Enable it while hiding behind the wall of plausible deniability. I am sure you agree with me 100%

Here is my problem suggesting he is a cheat, he only does this with horses that run long on turf, if this was some type of miracle medication it would be effective throughout his barn.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Here is my problem suggesting he is a cheat, he only does this with horses that run long on turf, if this was some type of miracle medication it would be effective throughout his barn.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Here is my problem suggesting he is a cheat, he only does this with horses that run long on turf, if this was some type of miracle medication it would be effective throughout his barn.

So you are suggesting that if something works on endurance runners it also has to work on sprinters? You aren’t lying about a miracle medication but it is simply moving the goal posts to give you Plausible Deniability.Thanks for showing us all how an owner thinks and works. Stay safe.

[Dahoss]

I’m basically suspicious of anyone that is able to move up a lo of their runners. I feel like Maker fits in that category.

People that I respect think he’s clean, so there’s that. But, he’s either really good at finding horses like this, or....

It’s just not that easy to turn a 30k claimer into a grade 2 winner 10 months later

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I’m basically suspicious of anyone that is able to move up a lo of their runners. I feel like Maker fits in that category.

People that I respect think he’s clean, so there’s that. But, he’s either really good at finding horses like this, or....

It’s just not that easy to turn a 30k claimer into a grade 2 winner 10 months later

I am not saying he isn't cheating because I don't know, it's certainly possible. Why would you cheat with just long-distance turf horses?

[Frost King]

Just remember pigs get slaughtered, just like what has happened to some other trainers.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by jms62

So you are suggesting that if something works on endurance runners it also has to work on sprinters?

And you're suggesting it might only work when going long on grass, but not dirt?

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Dunbar

And you're suggesting it might only work when going long on grass, but not dirt?

He moves up dirt runners too.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Here is my problem suggesting he is a cheat, he only does this with horses that run long on turf, if this was some type of miracle medication it would be effective throughout his barn.

Didn’t you kind of doubt Servis had an edge too?

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Didn’t you kind of doubt Servis had an edge too?

And Dutrow until the very end.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by jms62

And Dutrow until the very end.

Dutrow is a brilliant horseman, an idiot when it came to gambling and paperwork but he was not half the cheat people suspect him of being.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Didn’t you kind of doubt Servis had an edge too?

No, I always thought Servis was a raging cheat