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![]() Nadal looked great. You’ve got to feel bad for Baffert. Having so many good 3YOs forces him to either run against himself for purses and Derby qualifying points or ship the horses out.
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![]() I feel horrible for him.
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![]() I feel bad for the other trainers struggling to make ends meet because 1 trainer has so many good horses
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![]() Baffert is Brown West.
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![]() Baffert wasn't in the Top 50 in number of individual starters last year (116). If the argument is that he gets 'all the best horses', as judged by expensive sales prospects, that's a fairly recent development. But he's never had a factory operation.
Trainers with more than 150 individual starters in '19.. Steven M. Asmussen 612 Karl Broberg 544 Mark E. Casse 320 Michael J. Maker 312 Brad H. Cox 311 Robertino Diodoro 310 Chad C. Brown 301 Todd A. Pletcher 269 Joe Sharp 231 Linda Rice 218 Jonathan Wong 215 Jeremiah C. Englehart 202 Jorge Navarro 199 Jamie Ness 198 Michael Stidham 194 Rudy R. Rodriguez 193 Claudio A. Gonzalez 188 Doug F. O'Neill 181 Scott A. Lake 174 Jason Servis 171 William I. Mott 164 Thomas M. Amoss 163 Wesley A. Ward 159 Norman McKnight 158 H. Graham Motion 157 Frank Lucarelli 151
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![]() AQU Interborough S: Saguaro Row 87 (Union Rags) M. Stidham/J. Lezcano
SA Megahertz S (G3): Carressa - (Uncle Mo) J. Shirreffs/V. Espinoza
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![]() Related, but different topic.
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All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984. |
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My comment had more to do with the notion that someone feels bad for him for having to run his horses against each other. Maybe it was tongue in cheek but it didn’t appear that way. He has to run his horses against each other because he has so many quality horses. |
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Baffert is a great trainer...but you’re right that there are many other great trainers that don’t have the opportunities that he has. I don’t fault the owners either. It’s just the way things are. |
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It is not true that Baffert received elite stock 'for decades'. He never had the volume that Pletcher or even Mott was receiving and the horses he was getting were relatively modest priced ($100,000-$250,000) and quality homebreds. It's only in the last 7-10 years that he started to receive high ticket sales prospects. Here are the Top 20 horses of Baffert's career based on earnings: Arrogate (2014 KEE YRLG) $560,000 (Juddmonte) American Pharoah (2014 2YO) Homebred (Zayat) Captain Steve (1998 FT JUL YRLG) $150,000 (Pegram) Game On Dude (KEE 2008 YRLG) $210,000-RNA (Diamond Pride/Lanni+) West Coast (2015 SEP YRLG) $425,000 (West) Hoppertunity (2012 SEP YRLG) $300,000 (Pegram+) Bayern (2013 TIM 2YO) $300,000 (Shah) Silver Charm (OBS SPR 2YO) $100,000 (Lewis) Point Given (2000 2YO) Homebred (Thoroughbred Corp.) Justify (2016 KEE YRLG) $500,000 (China Horse Club+) Secret Circle (2011 OBS MAR) $165,000 (Pegram+) McKinzie (2016 KEE SEP YRLG) $170,000 (Pegram+) Lookin At Lucky (2009 KEE APR 2YO) $475,000 (Pegram+) Real Quiet (1996 KEE YRLG) $17,000 (Pegram) Congaree (2000 YRLG) Homebred (Stonerside) War Emblem (2000 KEE YRLG) Private Purchase (Thoroughbred Corp.) Silverbulletday (1997 FT JUL YRLG) $155,000 (Pegram) Indian Blessing (2007 2YO) Homebred (Earnhardt) Collected (2015 OBS MAR 2YO) $170,000 (Speedway) General Challenge (1998 2YO) Homebred (Mabee)
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All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984. |