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Old 09-28-2019, 11:43 PM
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I think if ever there was a year for multiple female runners to be considered for the Classic, this is it. I wouldn’t favor any of them over McKenzie but I’d favor a couple of them over any other male.
Outside of Elate, are there any fillies or mares robust enough to go 10 furlongs? It's not like the Distaff division is stacked. Midnight Bisou was suspect at 9 furlongs last year, and although she's won twice at that trip this year I doubt an additional furlong will be to her advantage.

However, if you were considering some European female runners in your post, I'm on board. And considering new stallion Noble Mission's ability to get some dirt runners (eg Code of Honor), now might be the time for Coolmore to flood the Classic with a few Galileos again instead of the distance-challenged War Fronts.

Even if McKinzie deserves to be favored in the Classic, he should be in the Sprint or alternatively drop in class for the BC Dirt Mile. He also would do well with a rider change.
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Old 09-29-2019, 05:11 PM
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It isn’t so much that I think the fillies are so much better than the males. It’s more that I think the males are horrific and Midnight Bisou, maybe Elate too, would rate among the top five choices. Midnight Bisou would probably be favored after this weekend’s results. She’s got the Eclipse for her division sown up so there is nothing to gain winning the Distaff. I don’t know purses exactly but I’m sure second money is better in the Classic than winning the Distaff. If we had a Gun Runner or Justify or American Pharoah, something that was really good, I’d say differently. But the likes of Code of Honor, McKenzie, Vino Rossi, and Mongolian Barbeque.....I’m not fearing them.

You idea about the Europeans, I agree with whole heartedly but then again, I’ve always been in favor of people thinking outside of the box and going big. I would have loved to have seen Enable in the Classic instead of the Turf.
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Old 09-30-2019, 07:37 AM
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It isn’t so much that I think the fillies are so much better than the males. It’s more that I think the males are horrific and Midnight Bisou, maybe Elate too, would rate among the top five choices. Midnight Bisou would probably be favored after this weekend’s results. She’s got the Eclipse for her division sown up so there is nothing to gain winning the Distaff.
The Bisou folks are angling for HotY more than just mare division honors. If she runs in the Distaff and thumps that group (again, ho hum) and finishes the year perfect, does she have more sway for HotY than if she runs in the Classic and doesn't win? If she hits the wall at 10f and finishes less-than-a-head-second or worse, she has ruined her HotY chances. I love Bisou, but she does not have the "Zenyatta effect" and can win HotY with a loss.
She HAS to win the Distaff by open lengths to have any chance of dethroning Bricks and Mortar to have a sniff at HotY. Bricks finishing 1st or 2nd - maybe even 3rd, depending on the factors - in the Turf seals it for him.
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Old 10-01-2019, 02:54 PM
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Mike Smith off McKinzie.
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Old 10-01-2019, 04:48 PM
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Mike Smith off McKinzie.
https://live.drf.com/nuggets/49611-m...mith-of-change
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Old 10-02-2019, 10:42 AM
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Code of Honor a Classic go..
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Old 10-05-2019, 08:26 AM
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War of Will good for a CLS go..

DFR/GRENING: Preakness winner War of Will will make his next start in the $6 million Breeder’s Cup Classic, trainer Mark Casse said Saturday morning.

War of Will, most recently third in the Grade 1 Pennsylvania Derby at Parx, worked a half mile in 50.20 seconds over Belmont Park’s main track Saturday morning. He will ship to Kentucky on Monday and then fly to Southern California on Thursday, Casse said.

Casse said the Classic “was what we were thinking all along.” Cassse trains War of Will for owner Gary Barber.
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Old 10-13-2019, 08:17 AM
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On the BC website it lists Johny V on Midnight Bisou
Why did Smith miss her last race?
Does Johny have the mount?
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