2019 Derby Trail: Bourbon War brings Belmont field to 10

[Rupert Pupkin]

No Maximum Security, no Country House, and no Code of Honor. So not a single one of the 1-2-3 finishers from the Derby will run in the Preakness. That has to be the first time this has happened.

[Bruinguybry]

Going to get all the "new" fans with that news. I wish they'd quit running that annoying preakness commercial while im trying to watch my bruins play.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Bruinguybry

Going to get all the "new" fans with that news. I wish they'd quit running that annoying preakness commercial while im trying to watch my bruins play.

Well MS needs time off because Servis’s “program” requires 30-45 days between starts.

Hay and oats.

[moses]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Well MS needs time off because Servis’s “program” requires 30-45 days between starts.

Hay and oats.

Can someone explain the time frame for me? Does the extra time allow a trainer to give PEDs to a horse that increase muscle, etc. but are out of the system by the time the horse races next?

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by moses

Can someone explain the time frame for me? Does the extra time allow a trainer to give PEDs to a horse that increase muscle, etc. but are out of the system by the time the horse races next?

If anything it's the opposite. The cheating trainers' horses can come back much quicker. Their horses can do things that normal horses can't do.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

If anything it's the opposite. The cheating trainers' horses can come back much quicker. Their horses can do things that normal horses can't do.

Wrong

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

If anything it's the opposite. The cheating trainers' horses can come back much quicker. Their horses can do things that normal horses can't do.

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Wrong

Yeah cuz R. Dutrow absolutely sucked at running horses back quickly

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Wrong

It is an absurd thing to say. Where are you getting your information? Blood doping and all cheating make horses much stronger and able to do things that normal horses can't do. Just like Lance Armstrong could do things that would not be possible without blood doping. When you are much stronger and can get much more air, you don't get as tired and you recover much quicker. It is the same with pretty much all the things that these guys use. Whether it's blood doping or whether it's something like steroids or something that mimics steroids, it allows the horses to recover much quicker and to maintain their weight. In Southern California there was a trainer who would run his horses back in a week all the time when steroids were allowed. It was a known fact that this guy was giving huge doses of steroids.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

No Maximum Security, no Country House, and no Code of Honor. So not a single one of the 1-2-3 finishers from the Derby will run in the Preakness. That has to be the first time this has happened.

I wonder if Shug McGaughey will have a rethink with Code of Honor.

At any rate, in 1985 the 1-2 finishers Spend A Buck (Jersey Derby) and the ill-fated Stephan's Odyssey (Peter Pan) opted out of the Preakness. Show horse Chief's Crown started and was tagged at the wire by Derby also-ran Tank's Prospect.

[Bruinguybry]

You have guys like baffert,beyer etc etc etc well respected guys saying it was bullshit. It cost me north of 5k and it was and will be horrible decison. The worst being that **** statement the **** stewards prepared after waiting ****ing 23 minutes to make the WRONG decison if their trying to "grow" the game with younger fans wellyou couldn't of handled that any worse. Younger people myslef included don't have the patience to be sitting around waiting for three clowns to make a **** decison. And now their promoting the **** of this 80oclm on May 18th (i mean the preakness stakes) GTFO

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Bruinguybry

You have guys like baffert,beyer etc etc etc well respected guys saying it was bullshit. It cost me north of 5k and it was and will be horrible decison. The worst being that **** statement the **** stewards prepared after waiting ****ing 23 minutes to make the WRONG decison if their trying to "grow" the game with younger fans wellyou couldn't of handled that any worse. Younger people myslef included don't have the patience to be sitting around waiting for three clowns to make a **** decison. And now their promoting the **** of this 80oclm on May 18th (i mean the preakness stakes) GTFO

Just as many respected people think it was the right call. How many days are you going to carry on?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Just as many respected people think it was the right call. How many days are you going to carry on?

Just imagine how hard he would have taken Smarty Jones's defeat in the Belmont.

[Bruinguybry]

There's a reason the selections board has dwindled down to about a handful of guys since I've been following (2015) the game is in a death spiral and the few fans they've gained in the past few years are gone. Short of running keenenlad and Saratoga all summer there's no new fans.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Bruinguybry

There's a reason the selections board has dwindled down to about a handful of guys since I've been following (2015) the game is in a death spiral and the few fans they've gained in the past few years are gone. Short of running keenenlad and Saratoga all summer there's no new fans.

Again, for an experienced gambler you don’t take losing very well.

Twitter has all but ruined most racing message boards. But seriously, don’t let the door hit you on your way out. Horse racing isn’t for the soft.