5/4 (CD): 145th Kentucky Derby Day

[cakes44]

Rosario should be banished from riding in the Derby ever again after that botched-abortion of a ride.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by cakes44

Rosario should be banished from riding in the Derby ever again after that botched-abortion of a ride.

Unless the horse just doesn’t like taking dirt, I agree it was shockingly bad. I’d love to see his Trakus numbers.

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Unless the horse just doesn’t like taking dirt, I agree it was shockingly bad. I’d love to see his Trakus numbers.

I think the ambulance had less ground lost.

[moses]

Thank god I bet Country House two months ago in a moment of complete stupidity. Would have never bet him today.

[moses]

Anyone know when they pay out the futures pools?

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by moses

Anyone know when they pay out the futures pools?

Right now if you want.

[moses]

Originally Posted by cakes44

Right now if you want.

Thanks. I got paid like 2 minutes after I asked. I’m too impatient.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by cakes44

I think the ambulance had less ground lost.

He traveled 103 more feet than Maximum Security. Mind boggling...

[moses]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

He traveled 103 more feet than Maximum Security. Mind boggling...

Jesus. And he was only 4 lengths back?

I knew they’d take him wide but that’s just ridiculous.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by moses

Jesus. And he was only 4 lengths back?

I knew they’d take him wide but that’s just ridiculous.

It seemed like he was 10 wide most of the backstretch

[philcski]

Originally Posted by moses

Jesus. And he was only 4 lengths back?

I knew they’d take him wide but that’s just ridiculous.

Originally Posted by Dahoss

It seemed like he was 10 wide most of the backstretch

Not to mention he was taken back to 18th of 19 shortly after the start in a race where a rookie could see there was only a moderate pace likely.

[LITF]

I mean that was awful...just awful. They made the right call. But, come on...**** that...**** this sport

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by LITF

I mean that was awful...just awful. They made the right call. But, come on...**** that...**** this sport

At first I was like 'oh they'll never take him down, this is nonsense, I can't blame Flavien for trying cuz it's the Derby but...' Then the other angles where you could see how much Maximum Security came out and how close War of Will came to going down. We nearly saw a terrible tragedy.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

At first I was like 'oh they'll never take him down, this is nonsense, I can't blame Flavien for trying cuz it's the Derby but...' Then the other angles where you could see how much Maximum Security came out and how close War of Will came to going down. We nearly saw a terrible tragedy.

Save the drama. There was NEVER the remote inkling of a *terrible tragedy*

Jesus Fu<king Christ

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Save the drama. There was NEVER the remote inkling of a *terrible tragedy*

Jesus Fu<king Christ

War of Will could've gone down in front of most of the Derby field. Someone could've died but sure, save the drama.

Here's one screen capture of what Maximum Security's coming out did to War of Will as he was moving forward. Credit: NBC's coverage, captured by @RussellKline1 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5xSBd8UcAAJQKH.jpg

[richard burch]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

War of Will could've gone down in front of most of the Derby field. Someone could've died but sure, save the drama.

Here's one screen capture of what Maximum Security's coming out did to War of Will as he was moving forward. Credit: NBC's coverage, captured by @RussellKline1 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5xSBd8UcAAJQKH.jpg

To me, it looks like WoW is riding up the MS arse. That is what I felt when I saw it live and on replay. He moved too soon. WoW caused the problem.

[jms62]

Watching that replay we were 1/2 second from a disaster that would be far far worse for the sport than the DQ. How many horses would have gone down ?

[ninetoone]

Originally Posted by richard burch

To me, it looks like WoW is riding up the MS arse. That is what I felt when I saw it live and on replay. He moved too soon. WoW caused the problem.

After watching the replay several times, it did look like WoW was up his ass and way too close, even before the incident. Like the jackass on the highway that's a foot off someone's bumper when traffic is such that there's nowhere to go. With that said, I do think that the stewards technically made the correct call. I just wish Irad would have had a little better trip. Wasn't his day....

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

War of Will could've gone down in front of most of the Derby field. Someone could've died but sure, save the drama.

Here's one screen capture of what Maximum Security's coming out did to War of Will as he was moving forward. Credit: NBC's coverage, captured by @RussellKline1 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5xSBd8UcAAJQKH.jpg

A screenshot, out of context with no benefit of a head on proves nothing. Horses race in tight daily. If the horse (MS) shied toward the crowd that purportedly spooked him ( makes no sense) , and a speed horse (WoW) is fading outside, what exactly is the jock supposed to do?

These are the facts:
1. There was NO Stewards Inquiry
2. Neither of the 2 horses that claimed foul were ever fouled

It’s the most ridiculous takedown I’ve ever seen. If you want to give him days for the ride that’s one thing. Placing clearly the best, and unquestionably the winning horse 17th serves no one, and is another black eye for the sport.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

A screenshot, out of context with no benefit of a head on proves nothing. Horses race in tight daily. If the horse (MS) shied toward the crowd that purportedly spooked him ( makes no sense) , and a speed horse (WoW) is fading outside, what exactly is the jock supposed to do?

These are the facts:
1. There was NO Stewards Inquiry
2. Neither of the 2 horses that claimed foul were ever fouled

It’s the most ridiculous takedown I’ve ever seen. If you want to give him days for the ride that’s one thing. Placing clearly the best, and unquestionably the winning horse 17th serves no one, and is another black eye for the sport.

You know I respect your opinion as well, but I think you’re being overly dramatic. The most ridiculous takedown you’ve ever seen? Come on man.

MS came out at least 2 paths, maybe 3-4. War of Will was bothered and Long Range Toddy was totally eliminated. It caused a chain reaction.

It doesn’t matter where it was on the turn and while I don’t think Saez purposely did it....he did it. There was a foul and horses were cost placings. How is that not a DQ? Maximum Security being the best horse (and miraculously rebreaking ) should have nothing to do with whether or not his foul cost other horses a placing.