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Old 03-29-2019, 11:31 PM
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Finley's piece in TDN is vile drivel and requires a response from an expert writer and someone who has command of not just the facts but the English language.

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I don't think you understood what he was saying. Here is what he was saying: It doesn't matter what any of us think on the subject. It matters what the public and what the politicians think. Did you not hear what Rep. Judy Chu said? Let me quote her:

"I am outraged by the deaths at Santa Anita racetrack," Rep. Judy Chu, D-Pasadena, said in a statement. "Animals deserve to be treated with dignity and compassion, and the use of race-day medication like Lasix must stop. The U.S. is an outlier when it comes to the practice of injecting horses with this drug on race day, and we need answers on the impact of this practice at Santa Anita and throughout the country.

"I am calling on the House Energy and Commerce Committee to investigate and hold a hearing on the treatment of horses at Santa Anita and throughout our country, and to examine legislation like the Horseracing Integrity Act that would improve safety for racehorses," Chu said. "I will work with my colleagues to ensure that all animals are treated humanely and to get to the bottom of this crisis. Until we know the horses are safe, the Santa Anita racetrack should be closed."

There is a danger that they could totally outlaw racing in California and maybe other places too. It matters what the people in power think. If you have to make moves to placate them, then so be it. That is the point. You can't just tell Rep. Chu to fu"" off. She can shut the track down. You need to do something to placate her, even if it's something that won't help the horses. That was Finley's point.
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Old 03-30-2019, 01:27 PM
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I don't think you understood what he was saying. Here is what he was saying: It doesn't matter what any of us think on the subject. It matters what the public and what the politicians think. Did you not hear what Rep. Judy Chu said? Let me quote her:

"I am outraged by the deaths at Santa Anita racetrack," Rep. Judy Chu, D-Pasadena, said in a statement. "Animals deserve to be treated with dignity and compassion, and the use of race-day medication like Lasix must stop. The U.S. is an outlier when it comes to the practice of injecting horses with this drug on race day, and we need answers on the impact of this practice at Santa Anita and throughout the country.

"I am calling on the House Energy and Commerce Committee to investigate and hold a hearing on the treatment of horses at Santa Anita and throughout our country, and to examine legislation like the Horseracing Integrity Act that would improve safety for racehorses," Chu said. "I will work with my colleagues to ensure that all animals are treated humanely and to get to the bottom of this crisis. Until we know the horses are safe, the Santa Anita racetrack should be closed."

There is a danger that they could totally outlaw racing in California and maybe other places too. It matters what the people in power think. If you have to make moves to placate them, then so be it. That is the point. You can't just tell Rep. Chu to fu"" off. She can shut the track down. You need to do something to placate her, even if it's something that won't help the horses. That was Finley's point.
Chu can chew on this. What makes you think Belinda gives a rats ass if they shut down the track? The property is worth many multiples of what the underlying business is worth.
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Old 03-30-2019, 08:20 PM
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Chu can chew on this. What makes you think Belinda gives a rats ass if they shut down the track? The property is worth many multiples of what the underlying business is worth.
You may be right. There is already a chance that Belinda may want to sell the property. But there is also a chance that she won't sell and will keep the track open. If Chu shuts the track down, then Belinda won't have a choice.
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Old 03-31-2019, 07:46 AM
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You may be right. There is already a chance that Belinda may want to sell the property. But there is also a chance that she won't sell and will keep the track open. If Chu shuts the track down, then Belinda won't have a choice.
Chu is a hack House Member how the heck does she shut the track down? Civics aren't taught in schools anymore, are they?
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Old 03-31-2019, 08:01 AM
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Chu is a hack House Member how the heck does she shut the track down? Civics aren't taught in schools anymore, are they?
Even if she could somehow influence people who have the ability to shut down the track, it’s likely that she simply wants to be seen as “doing something” about the issue and putting out a strongly worded press release that is combined with some nebulous self-imposed “reforms” by the race track that “make racing safer” is enough to keep people happy until the vast majority of people forget about the topic.

Politics is governed by crisis these days. Once the Santa Anita issue fades away, I wouldn’t be surprised to see some of the changes announced by Stronach walked back a bit. But I’m also a little cynical from knowing too much about New Jersey government so maybe California doesn’t work that way.
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Old 03-31-2019, 01:12 PM
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Chu is a hack House Member how the heck does she shut the track down? Civics aren't taught in schools anymore, are they?
I didn't literally mean that she had the power to just unilaterally shut the track down on her own. But she obviously has some power, as does every House member, and I believe she represents Arcadia. Whether she is a hack is irrelevant. I think most of them are hacks.
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Old 03-31-2019, 04:01 PM
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I didn't literally mean that she had the power to just unilaterally shut the track down on her own. But she obviously has some power, as does every House member, and I believe she represents Arcadia. Whether she is a hack is irrelevant. I think most of them are hacks.
House members from the great state of California have a habit of being FOS and alleging nonsense, the only people who take them seriously are themselves.
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Old 03-31-2019, 05:03 PM
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House members from the great state of California have a habit of being FOS and alleging nonsense, the only people who take them seriously are themselves.
If you've read any of my posts in the politics section, you know I am no fan of liberal politicians. But regardless of politics, nobody is going to tolerate horses breaking down left and right. Something is going to give if this keeps happening. If there is too big of a public outcry about something, politicians will take action. We may like racing but we make up less than 1% of the population.

By the way, there was just another breakdown at Santa Anita (in the 4th race).
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