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Old 12-29-2006, 04:22 PM
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I'm not sure why your trainer would have said that Mepiviciane would not be found in a vets box. It is commonly used as a nerve block to try to determine the exact point of acute lameness. The withdrawl time is fairly consistent in most jurisdictions and every vet that I have ever used carried it.
I was going to say this too....mepivacaine/carbocaine is a great product when used properly for diagnosing an exact area of soreness/lameness when you just can't figure out what is going on with a horse...
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Old 12-29-2006, 10:01 PM
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Well,whatever racing is going to do,it had better hurry up and clean up it's act,because I have a feeling the feds will get involved sooner or later.They are all over Baseball right now,and,You think Elliot Spitzer was bad,wait till the next "Hotshot"Running for office decides to pick on racing before his or her campaign.All I have to say is they better get it together and real soon because the sh_t is gonna hit the fan soon!!
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Old 12-31-2006, 07:08 PM
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Well,whatever racing is going to do,it had better hurry up and clean up it's act,because I have a feeling the feds will get involved sooner or later.They are all over Baseball right now,and,You think Elliot Spitzer was bad,wait till the next "Hotshot"Running for office decides to pick on racing before his or her campaign.All I have to say is they better get it together and real soon because the sh_t is gonna hit the fan soon!!
I am afraid that this is very true. Federal officials don't seem to have anything better to do than have Congressional hearing on baseball and passing riders to amendments to ban internet gambling, so getting involved in the racing medication issue wouldn't surprise me a bit.

Maybe some of what was said at the Racing Symposium will be put into action. At least it was brought out into the open...

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Old 01-01-2007, 06:18 AM
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As a physician I will always have trouble accepting this one because in humans the first action of furosamide or Lasix is a response in twenty minutes after pushing the drug. The entire pulmonary capillary circulature dilates allowing for better matching of blood flow and open alveoli units. When the blood volume or pressure is too high, the lungs have areas where there is excessive blood flow but no air gets there or what we respiratory dweebs call V/Q mismatch or shunting.

With a good slug of a loop diuretic such as Lasix the V/Q mismatch is reversed in 30 minutes to an hour.Put a more simplistic way the patient can breathe better.....what could possibly be better for a horse!!!!

Although the increase in capillary area is useful in stopping bleeding in a horses feet and legs the effect in the lungs is profound and thus the horse is more comfortable running.

If the horse hasn't bled they really shouldn't be able to use it......oh well enough clinical stuff time to go play the GG speed bias of the last week. Early Speed is king!!!

I'll post plays later today....

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Old 01-01-2007, 08:57 AM
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Thanks, Doc, for the interesting post, and good luck today at GG...

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Old 01-01-2007, 01:03 PM
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With a good slug of a loop diuretic such as Lasix the V/Q mismatch is reversed in 30 minutes to an hour.Put a more simplistic way the patient can breathe better.....what could possibly be better for a horse!!!!

Although the increase in capillary area is useful in stopping bleeding in a horses feet and legs the effect in the lungs is profound and thus the horse is more comfortable running.



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Therefore if the drug is having the intended effect of stopping bleeding and allowing the horse to run more comfortably and the fact that virtually all horses are running on Lasix kind of makes the argument for its use. Defining a regular bleeder is compliated because virtually all horses will show some signs of blood in the trachea (throat) after racing or a workout. I was always puzzled by the theory that we should wait for a horse to bleed really badly before giving Lasix. It is like saying that you dont need to carry a spare tire with you untill after you have been stuck on the side of the road without one.
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