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Old 12-28-2006, 11:32 AM
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With all due respect to your Hawthorne connections, turning Azeri around is a much more impressive feat.
i wasnt trying to compare feats lol between claimers and azeri, was just stating it isnt uncommon. by the way are you aware how much talent and heart azeri had before she was layed upLOL? luka$$ didnt bring the talent outta her
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Old 12-28-2006, 11:35 AM
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i wasnt trying to compare feats lol between claimers and azeri, was just stating it isnt uncommon. by the way are you aware how much talent and heart azeri had before she was layed upLOL? luka$$ didnt bring the talent outta her

Lukas MADE her a star. She was finished and he stepped up to the plate, laid those magic hands on her and turned her into the champion she became.
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Old 12-28-2006, 11:37 AM
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Lukas MADE her a star. She was finished and he stepped up to the plate, laid those magic hands on her and turned her into the champion she became.
Azeri was a star way before Lukas got her.
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Old 12-28-2006, 11:38 AM
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Lukas MADE her a star. She was finished and he stepped up to the plate, laid those magic hands on her and turned her into the champion she became.
oh man, lol seems youve been paying numerous visits to mr dopeman if you truly believe what you just said. i think the horse was already a star LOL
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Old 12-28-2006, 11:40 AM
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oh man, lol seems youve been paying numerous visits to mr dopeman if you truly believe what you just said. i think the horse was already a star LOL

How can you say that with a straight face? She was just another mane and tail until the master went to work and turned her around.
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Old 12-28-2006, 11:41 AM
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How can you say that with a straight face? She was just another mane and tail until the master went to work and turned her around.
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 12-28-2006, 11:41 AM
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LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's true though.
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Old 12-28-2006, 11:42 AM
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It's true though.
lol are you saying this with a straight face?
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Old 12-28-2006, 11:43 AM
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How can you say that with a straight face? She was just another mane and tail until the master went to work and turned her around.
I cant tell if you are joking or being serious. Lukas had her only to get her ready for the Breeders Cup Classic and that was after she won TWO eclipse awards.
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Old 12-28-2006, 11:45 AM
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I cant tell if you are joking or being serious. Lukas had her only to get her ready for the Breeders Cup Classic and that was after she won TWO eclipse awards.
I hope you are joking as this is absurd.
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Old 12-28-2006, 11:45 AM
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I hope you are joking as this is absurd.
What is absurd about it?
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Old 12-28-2006, 11:48 AM
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How can you say that with a straight face? She was just another mane and tail until the master went to work and turned her around.

im sorry but this is absolutely hilarious LMFAO! that post is worthy of the archives!
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Old 12-28-2006, 01:06 PM
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im sorry but this is absolutely hilarious LMFAO! that post is worthy of the archives!
I agree. Azeri won around 10 or 12 graded stakes races under DeSeroux. She won 3 with Lukas. Don't get me wrong, Lukas did a good job with her but she the horse was already a super-star.
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Old 12-29-2006, 09:15 AM
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How can you say that with a straight face? She was just another mane and tail until the master went to work and turned her around.
maybe you're thinking of spain? certainly not azeri.
i have to say, altho some trainers real or perceived coldness might be offputting, i was also nauseated every time LDS called azeri 'honey bear'.
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Old 12-29-2006, 10:35 AM
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maybe you're thinking of spain? certainly not azeri.
i have to say, altho some trainers real or perceived coldness might be offputting, i was also nauseated every time LDS called azeri 'honey bear'.
Yes, Spain was more excellent work by the master Lukas. I too, recall wanting to puke each time the words "honey bear" were invoked.

For example:

I bowed honey bear, she is finished. I can't believe that evil man ( lukas) thinks he can race her. I feel bad for my little honey bear.
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Old 12-28-2006, 11:42 AM
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Actually Lukas did make Azeri a champion in the minds of many fans. Before he got her she ran two very similar campaigns and pretty much beat up on the same mediocre horses in one slow race after another. Lukas, on the other hand, ran her in tougher spots and brought her act to NY where she showed what she was really made of. She is another horse who's true mettle was defined in defeat with her exceptionally valiant effort in the 1 1/4 mile Personal Ensign.

I'm not Lukas's biggest fan by any stretch of the imagination but he was a trailblazer in this game and to deny that is lunacy.
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Old 12-28-2006, 11:57 AM
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Actually Lukas did make Azeri a champion in the minds of many fans. Before he got her she ran two very similar campaigns and pretty much beat up on the same mediocre horses in one slow race after another. Lukas, on the other hand, ran her in tougher spots and brought her act to NY where she showed what she was really made of. She is another horse who's true mettle was defined in defeat with her exceptionally valiant effort in the 1 1/4 mile Personal Ensign.

I'm not Lukas's biggest fan by any stretch of the imagination but he was a trailblazer in this game and to deny that is lunacy.
I personally liked the fact that he sent her to the BCC too. She made a good showing that day in my opinion, there were some good (and one excellent) colts in that race. Day made a really smart move at the start of the race coming out of the gate and got a great position with her.
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Old 12-28-2006, 12:04 PM
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I personally liked the fact that he sent her to the BCC too. She made a good showing that day in my opinion, there were some good (and one excellent) colts in that race. Day made a really smart move at the start of the race coming out of the gate and got a great position with her.

She did run well that race but it is hard for me to defend a trainer who runs any horse in a race it has no chance in. Plus, personally, I wish she had run in the Distaff, which she would have dominated, as I never liked Ashado and wish she had denied her a BC win.

But, Lukas ran her in the tough campaign that had previously eluded her, and absolutely did her reputation an enormous amount of good. It seems to me a win in the Apple Blossom, Go For Wand and Spinster, along with her terrific second in the Personal Ensign, shaped her best campaign ever. And, as was previously pointed out, after her previous trainer claimed she had bowed.
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