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Old 06-07-2018, 06:56 PM
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Thats called living a dream.
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Old 06-08-2018, 07:06 AM
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Thats called living a dream.
Haha, maybe. I just can’t bring myself to bet on Justify, not with him almost getting caught in the Preakness. I thought he would win a lot more convincingly there. Had him keyed on top in my trifecta and superfecta. I expected him to win by a couple lengths. Three horses within 1 of him and a fourth horse 1 back made him look very beatable, especially at 12 furlongs.
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Old 06-08-2018, 11:19 AM
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Old 06-08-2018, 11:53 AM
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You might be a little optimistic about Justify running away with it. Besides at 3-5 or so there isn't much value there. I really believe Hofburg and Tenfold will give him all he can handle.
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Old 06-08-2018, 12:50 PM
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I never said anything about odds or value, there is more value at 3/5 than wiping your rear end with a win ticket on any other horse. My Optimism.... my opinion has to do with the facts.

Had a similar discussion before the Derby on the difference between Bolt-D and Justify. fact was Desourmeax beat the living hell out of Bolt-D, and had no chance at hanging with Justify who won having fun. The retort was that Bolt D wasn’t beaten like a step child and was la D off with a furlong to go. A complete blind observation. Do people really actually watch a race? Anyway, check my post as I tries to help the poor lad out. I think we all saw what happened to the Bolt.

Finally. Really watch the Preakness. When Smith decided to make his move, it was a hand ask, and Justify dropped his rear end and excellerated like a Porsche from 5th to 3rd gear. He swallowed Magic like he was moving backwards. At that point you can observe Smith ride that momentum to the extent it became the necessary lead to set up a big punch from the whip. When cracked Justify poped again and Smith rode it out. Horses closing or not, Smith (not a fan) is still a HoF jockey who is very much aware of where the wire is at. Very smart and experienced move that demonstrates the confidence he had in the abilities of this Beast, and the fact that he knew the big one was still to come.

Justify opens up to a one, two, now 3 length lead, it’s alll Justification at this point as JUSTIFY wins the triple crown in a jaw dropping performance.

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You may be right and thanks for the input, it’s appreciated. It seems like there are two factions: those who think Justify will win easily and those who think he won’t even hit the board. I guess I’m in the middle. I think he’s the best horse in the race but I think he’s tired and I’m willing to bet against him with history on my side. Regardless of his resume, it’s hard to win the Triple Crown. I think this will be a tough race for him. I’m happy to place some bets against him. If he beats me, I’ll just have to tip my cap to him.
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Old 06-08-2018, 02:00 PM
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It seems like there are two factions: those who think Justify will win easily and those who think he won’t even hit the board. I guess I’m in the middle.
I guess I'm in the middle, too. I think Justify is by far the most likely winner of the Belmont, but at the same time, I think it's more likely he doesn't win than does win. So if he indeed goes off at 1-1 or lower, which seems likely, I'll be looking to bet some other horses to win.
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Old 06-08-2018, 02:17 PM
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I guess I'm in the middle, too. I think Justify is by far the most likely winner of the Belmont, but at the same time, I think it's more likely he doesn't win than does win. So if he indeed goes off at 1-1 or lower, which seems likely, I'll be looking to bet some other horses to win.
Glad to know I’m not alone in my thoughts. Are you leaning toward any particular horses?
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Old 06-09-2018, 07:39 AM
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Glad to know I’m not alone in my thoughts. Are you leaning toward any particular horses?
I won't know until I make a line, and laziness is keeping me from doing that until I'm confident that Justify will be no higher that 1-1. I do hope I'll be able to rationalize bets on Hofburg, Bravazo and/or Tenfold, though. If I could bet on every other horse in the race in amounts that would net me 1-1 no matter which one won, I would. But that's not going to happen.
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Old 06-08-2018, 01:14 PM
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Well if your right, and can catch him in the 3 or 4th spot, you will get paid!
The perfect day for me would be Tenfold then Vino Rosso then Blended Citizen. That seems extremely unlikely but that’s probably the biggest payout for me. I’ll be happy if Tenfold wins it.
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Old 06-08-2018, 12:34 PM
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I mean think about it for a minute, A hand ride too victory in a grade 1! Really


Great big Majestic Beast trouncing 4 legged animals at the big sandy!
It’s possible. He’s a great horse. But plenty of great horses have struggled in the Belmont. Is he the same horse he was at Santa Anita or Churchill? He didn’t look it in the Preakness, though still besting the field. But I wonder — if Bravazo had somehow managed to edge Justify out at Pimlico, would Justify even be running tomorrow? And would he be a below-even-money favorite? I guess we’ll never know but it’s amazing how much half a length can change our view on things.
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