2017 Eclipse Award Ballot & Discussion

[knickslions2]

So who were the two jackals that voted arrogate horse of the year? Their voting privileges should be taken away

[-BT-]

Originally Posted by knickslions2

So who were the two jackals that voted arrogate horse of the year? Their voting privileges should be taken away

one of them probably posts often in the selections forum.

-bt-

[casp0555]

Originally Posted by -BT-

one of them probably posts often in the selections forum.

-bt-

[jnunan4759]

That was nice of Ray. Nice to see you talk about your votes and reasoning. This is all opinion. And it's great. I enjoy hearing those who put the thought in.

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by knickslions2

So who were the two jackals that voted arrogate horse of the year? Their voting privileges should be taken away

I'm not gonna hate on that, I just wouldn't vote the same way. Sure, Arrogate's year fell apart but it still includes the 2017 Pegasus and the Dubai World Cup, the latter a truly jaw dropping performance (and that's in the context of Arrogate's other races), one that got him ranked #1 in the world. They knew Gun Runner was a shoo-in. Turning Arrogate out might've resulted in a different BCC (and you know Bob could get him back in shape even if he did still hate Del Mar). He wins that race, they go Arrogate for HOY in a landslide. A sentimental vote for the better horse with a bad year who finished the year as the top ranked racehorse isn't so bad.

[richard burch]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

I'm not gonna hate on that, I just wouldn't vote the same way. Sure, Arrogate's year fell apart but it still includes the 2017 Pegasus and the Dubai World Cup, the latter a truly jaw dropping performance (and that's in the context of Arrogate's other races), one that got him ranked #1 in the world. They knew Gun Runner was a shoo-in. Turning Arrogate out might've resulted in a different BCC (and you know Bob could get him back in shape even if he did still hate Del Mar). He wins that race, they go Arrogate for HOY in a landslide. A sentimental vote for the better horse with a bad year who finished the year as the top ranked racehorse isn't so bad.

True....but the right horse won. Congrats to Team Gun Runner!

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by knickslions2

So who were the two jackals that voted arrogate horse of the year? Their voting privileges should be taken away

I found the votes for Irap and Mastery more dumbfounding.

Anyway, it's nice that no horse (or entity) was edged out in any category. All the winners won decisively.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Dunbar

I found the votes for Irap and Mastery more dumbfounding.

Anyway, it's nice that no horse (or entity) was edged out in any category. All the winners won decisively.

It depends on how you look at it. If you’re looking for most accomplished, Mastery shouldn’t get a vote. But if you follow a different way of thinking, the one that says you vote for the best horse of all those that are qualified, it’s not hard to see why Mastery would get votes. He looked like he was going to be really good. In my opinion, a vote for him wouldn’t be much different than voting for Singspiel. He won the award as top turf horse and didn’t win a single race in this country.

[Merlinsky]

I was just reading the BH article on Good Magic's Eclipse win and wow that comment section's 'he wuz robbed' about Bolt D'Oro... I guess the Chromies have a new champion. Of course they're also crying about East Coast Bias and all that. This is gonna be insufferable.