|
|
 |
|
|
|
#1
12-16-2017, 07:57 PM
|
|||
|
|||
I find it amazing that basically nobody is discussing this race honestly. It is NOT a $16 million race. It does NOT cost $1 million for a spot. It cost $350K for a spot. As of now, eight spots have been sold for $350K, or a total of $2.8 million. Add that to the $4 million of added money, and you have a $6.8 million race. Stronach Group claiming they are buying the other four spots makes no sense. I thought the deadline for buying a spot was this past week. I guess if Stronach wants to put up another $1.4 million and give out four more spots, it's their prerogative, and that money can be added to the pool, making it an $8.2 million race. That is the maximum it's worth. This "everyone gets at least $650K back" should not be recognized as part of the purse.
Stronach Group is putting up a ton of money for this race and they should be applauded for that. However, that doesn't buy them the right to create a fraudulent purse. The Jockey Club cannot recognize the $650K "earned" by the also rans. What's next, the KY Derby advertised as a $500 million race, with each entrant supposedly anteing up $25 million to run, with all starters guaranteed $24.9 million in earnings? Will the Jockey Club then have 20 horses that annually earn in excess of $25 million? How is this different? Let's celebrate the race as a generous outlay by the Stronach Group that is a present to racing fans. But, let's not call it something it's not.
__________________
Just more nebulous nonsense from BBB 
|
|
#2
12-17-2017, 07:33 AM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
|
|
#4
12-17-2017, 10:22 AM
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
 !
__________________
Curlin and Hard Spun finish 1,2 in the 2007 BC Classic, demonstrating how competing in all three Triple Crown races ruins a horse for the rest of the year...see avatar photo from REUTERS/Lucas Jackson
|
|
#5
12-31-2017, 07:07 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Giant Expectations added to the field..
1. Gun Runner (Winchell/Three Chimneys) Asmussen/Geroux 2. Collected (Speedway) Baffert/Smith 3. West Coast (West) Baffert/Castellano 4. Gunnevera (Peacock Racing) Sano/Saez 5. Seeking the Soul (Fipke) Stewart/J. Velazquez 6. Toast of New York (Al Shaqab/Reeves) Osbourne/Dettori 7. War Story (Loooch) Navarro/J. Ortiz 8. Stellar Wind (Coolmore) C. Brown/Rosario 9. Fear the Cowboy (Stronach, Frankel & Frankel, Amayo & Centofanti) Loza/Gaffalione 10. Giant Expectations (Exline-Border, Gatto & Zubok) Eurton/Stevens 11. Sharp Azteca (Loooch) Navarro/I. Ortiz Jr. 12. Open ~ Singing Bullet/Giuseppe the Great/J Boys Echo
__________________
All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984. Last edited by Kasept : 01-22-2018 at 10:35 AM.
|
|
#6
12-31-2017, 08:30 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
TBD should be a real doozy.
__________________
Just more nebulous nonsense from BBB
|
|
#8
12-31-2017, 09:05 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
What if TBD turns out to be Winx?
|
|
#9
01-02-2018, 05:30 AM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Running Winx in this race would be incredible.
__________________
2705 Central Avenue
|
|
#10
01-03-2018, 09:49 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
This is actually looking like an OK betting race. If Sharp Azteca goes that would be a big plus. In terms of the Stronach entry,if he sticks to his Adena runners it almost has to be Ice Festival.........off price probably around 75-1 with this bunch.
|
|
#11
01-12-2018, 04:51 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Deals in place on 2 of 3 Stronach-retained slots..
http://www.drf.com/news/stronach-gro...-pegasus-slots
__________________
All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984.
|
|
#12
01-23-2018, 03:25 AM
|
||||
|
||||
|
1. Gun Runner (Winchell/Three Chimneys) Asmussen/Geroux
2. Collected (Speedway) Baffert/Smith 3. West Coast (West) Baffert/Castellano 4. Gunnevera (Peacock Racing) Sano/Saez 5. Seeking the Soul (Fipke) Stewart/J. Velazquez 6. Toast of New York (Al Shaqab/Reeves) Osbourne/Dettori 7. War Story (Loooch) Navarro/J. Ortiz 8. Stellar Wind (Coolmore) C. Brown/Rosario 9. Fear the Cowboy (Stronach, Frankel & Frankel, Amayo & Centofanti) Loza/Gaffalione 10. Giant Expectations (Exline-Border, Gatto & Zubok) Eurton/Stevens 11. Sharp Azteca (Loooch) Navarro/I. Ortiz Jr. 12. Singing Bullet (The Stronach Group) Romans/Albarado
__________________
All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984. Last edited by Kasept : 01-23-2018 at 12:00 PM.
|
|
#13
01-23-2018, 11:23 AM
|
||||
|
||||
|
I know I cant be the only one that thinks this race sets up differently than the BCC for Gun Runner because of the early zip that's sure to be shown by Sharp Azteca (amongst others, seemingly).
This is not at all saying Gun Runner won't excel with the stalk and pounce trip, but the chase and fade trip can't fully be dismissed either. While he'll be on top of 95% of my tickets, I will also be playing the scenario that benefits a few of the closers, while keying GR and West Coast in 3rd and 4th. Hope everyone enjoys themselves and makes some money this weekend!
__________________
"A person who saw no important difference between the fire outside a Neandrathal's cave and a working thermo-nuclear reactor might tell you that junk bonds and derivatives BOTH serve to energize capital" - Nathan Israel
|
|
#14
01-23-2018, 11:59 AM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
__________________
All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984.
|
|
#15
01-17-2018, 10:07 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
MOST LIKELY WINNER
1. Gun Runner (Winchell/Three Chimneys) 3. West Coast (West) 8. Stellar Wind (Coolmore) ~ Anticipated 11. Sharp Azteca (New owner pending) ~ Expected ON A GOOD DAY 2. Collected (Speedway) 5. Seeking the Soul (Fipke) 10. Giant Expectations (Exline-Border 12. Fear the Cowboy NOT A CHANCE 6. Toast of New York (Al Shaqab/Reeves) 7. War Story (Loooch) 4. Gunnevera (Peacock Racing) 9. Singing Bullet
__________________
Support your local Re-run or horse rescue organization. https://www.rerunottb.com/:)
|
|
#16
01-16-2018, 07:16 AM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
__________________
All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984.
|
|
#17
01-16-2018, 08:15 AM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
He makes Fear the Cowboy look like Hindoo.
__________________
Just more nebulous nonsense from BBB
|
|
#18
01-16-2018, 08:58 AM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Gun Runner (Winchell/Three Chimneys)
2. Collected (Speedway) 3. West Coast (West) 4. Gunnevera (Peacock Racing) 5. Seeking the Soul (Fipke) 6. Toast of New York (Al Shaqab/Reeves) 7. War Story (Loooch) 8. Stellar Wind (Coolmore) 9. Singing Bullet (Stronach) ~ Likely 10. Giant Expectations (Exline-Border, Gatto & Zubok) 11. Sharp Azteca (Loooch) 12. Fear the Cowboy (Amayo & Centofanti) How many can win The Donn? 3 IMO, Gun Runner 3/10 West Coast 12/1 and Stellar Wind 25/1...
|
|
#19
01-16-2018, 10:39 AM
|
||||
|
||||
|
The bottom end is the bottom of the barrel for a G1 race. Other than that, I think this race is more than a little bit interesting...mostly because SA is in. Don’t necessarily think he can win, and GP isn’t the best place to try to win at 1 1/8th on the lead in my betting experience, but he is a running motherf#%*er and will have an affect.
|
|
#20
01-16-2018, 12:09 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
|
Hybrid Mode
