8/19 (DMR): Pacific Classic, DMR Oaks (G1's), DMR Handicap (G2)

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Originally Posted by knickslions2

Its very interesting that both Arrogate and Collected are in this race. Collected has been training lights out and if can get the distance will be a handful to beat here.

I always felt like 10F was beyond his scope, and on this track its a real 10 furlongs this year. But he is training and talented, and you have that whole bet the longer priced Baffert horse thingy

[Indian Charlie]

Normally, when a horse of anywhere near Arrogates ability runs such an inexplicable race this close to the end of its career, it's just retired. Baffert didn't seem surprised or concerned even with the race. Instead of the usual talk about going over him with every diagnostic test available, he spoke like he had confidence that Arrogate would run back to form in a few weeks.

It was pretty odd.

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Normally, when a horse of anywhere near Arrogates ability runs such an inexplicable race this close to the end of its career, it's just retired. Baffert didn't seem surprised or concerned even with the race. Instead of the usual talk about going over him with every diagnostic test available, he spoke like he had confidence that Arrogate would run back to form in a few weeks.

It was pretty odd.

I have pointed that out in other places, his comments before the race and after the race were at complete odds with other...nervous before, almost making excuses...to we will be fine in a few weeks.

[Indian Charlie]

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I have pointed that out in other places, his comments before the race and after the race were at complete odds with other...nervous before, almost making excuses...to we will be fine in a few weeks.

It is pretty odd!

[RHT2004]

I think he is a mortal lock. Why not retire him? He's running because he is ready.

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Originally Posted by RHT2004

I think he is a moral lock. Why not retire him? He's running because he is ready.

I dont buy that, no matter how he runs his value is cemented based on when he was right not when he was wrong. I think its a great unknown to everyone but there is actually very little to lose.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

I think he is a moral lock. Why not retire him? He's running because he is ready.

Yeah, he's a mortal lock too, though his morals are impeccable. In all seriousness, he should destroy that field.

[RHT2004]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Yeah, he's a mortal lock too, though his morals are impeccable. In all seriousness, he should destroy that field.

Mortal. He crushes them.

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Yeah, he's a mortal lock too, though his morals are impeccable. In all seriousness, he should destroy that field.

I would point out Collected has never lost on a fast track i believe...and his TF figure is only a few points below Arrogate, he easily could be a very very good horse.

[-BT-]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

I think he is a mortal lock. Why not retire him? He's running because he is ready.

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[RHT2004]

Originally Posted by -BT-

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Yeah the horse ran a 115 beyer chasing wide. Every expert around says he's not the same, and he missed by a half. But you come out to post this. LOL