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Old 07-14-2017, 11:49 PM
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Songbird is a classic litmus test horse for people that get fooled by wins.
Zenyatta is a much better example.
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Old 07-15-2017, 12:05 AM
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Passed all she faced except one. And just missed. Ran by Every hoss in every race. What is it you are missing ?

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Old 07-15-2017, 12:20 AM
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Zenyatta is a much better example.
Reasonable analogy.

However, at least Songbird runs in the right races and travels. It's not her fault her competition last year was ( outside of the BC ) a joke. She also has dangerous speed. But, undefeated records are pretty much due to a confluence of events which rate to include a lot of luck....especially when the horses with those records aren't particularly fast.

Even last year, after Arrogate clearly demonstrated the difference between mediocre supposed divisional leaders and actual greatness, the confusion regarding Songbird continues.
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Old 07-15-2017, 12:32 AM
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Back to back breeders cup classics are not the right races ?

It's a travesty they didn't bring Zenyatta to Saratoga, but don't blame the hoss.
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