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Old 04-29-2017, 09:33 PM
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Default Offshore Ky Derby futures

Here are the current offshore Derby future odds, using the higher of Bookmaker and 5Dimes: (you'd lose your bet if your horse doesn't start.)

Girvin* 15.1 Book
Classic Empire* 5.3 Book
Gormley* 17 FiveD
Irap* 33.2 Book
Irish War Cry* 7.3 FiveD
Thunder Snow 17.8 Book
Always Dreaming* 5.5 Book
Gunnevera* 9.5 Book
Practical Joke 17 Book
*J Boys Echo* 33 FiveD
*State of Honor* 70 FiveD
*Tapwrit* 20 FiveD
*Hence* 20.6 Book
*Fast and Accurate* 80.5 Book
*McCraken 8 Book
*Battle of Midway 28 FiveD
*Patch 60 FiveD
Untrapped 50 FiveD
Lookin at Lee 25.6 Book
Sonneteer 51.5 Book

The odds add up to 117%, so it's in the range of CD's track take.

(The asterisks don't mean anything. They are an artifact of my copy-and-paste.)
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Old 05-02-2017, 08:26 AM
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Always Dreaming (5.5-1) is now the fav, based on odds from those 2 sportsbooks. Classic Empire has risen to 6.5-1.

Changes: (the rightmost number is today's; significant changes in bold)

Girvin* 15.1 Book, 20 FiveD
Classic Empire* 5.3 Book, 6.5 FiveD
Gormley* 17 FiveD, 20 FiveD
Irap* 33.2 Book, 33.4 Book
Irish War Cry* 7.3 FiveD, 7.5 FiveD
Thunder Snow 17.8 Book, 18 FiveD
Always Dreaming* 5.5 Book, same
Gunnevera* 9.5 Book, same
Practical Joke 17 Book, 17.5 FiveD
*J Boys Echo* 33 FiveD, 50 FiveD
*State of Honor* 70 FiveD, 55 FiveD
*Tapwrit* 20 FiveD, 18.1 Book
*Hence* 20.6 Book, same
*Fast and Accurate* 80.5 Book, 80.3 Book
*McCraken 8 Book, same
*Battle of Midway 28 FiveD, 35 FiveD
*Patch 60 FiveD, 54.5 Book
Untrapped 50 FiveD, 45.5 Book
Lookin at Lee 25.6 Book, 25 FiveD
Sonneteer 51.5 Book, 43.8 Book

Using the current best odds from those two sportsbooks, the odds add to 112%.

(The asterisks don't mean anything. They are an artifact of my copy-and-paste.)
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Old 05-02-2017, 11:26 AM
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Twitter seems to be buzzing about Hence, but the offshore shops all have at 20-1+. I'm thinking he gets bet down Saturday.

Gormley is going to get some more love if the weather forecast remains gloomy. Some have proven they can handle the slop, but his Sham showed that he thrives in it and likely moves up. That figure was several lengths his best.
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Old 05-04-2017, 04:00 PM
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(5Dimes's line is now "must start", and CE, AD, and McCraken must start, too. For odds on CE, AD, and McC, the other 2 must start plus Irish War Cry must start.)

Changes: (the rightmost number is today's)

Girvin* 15.1 Book, 20 FiveD, 20.5 Book
Classic Empire* 5.3 Book, 6.5 FiveD, 5.75 FiveD
Gormley* 17 FiveD, 20 FiveD, 25.6 Book
Irap* 33.2 Book, 33.4 Book, 32.6 Book
Irish War Cry* 7.3 FiveD, 7.5 FiveD, 7.9 Book
Thunder Snow 17.8 Book, 18 FiveD, 25.6 Book
Always Dreaming* 5.5 Book, same, 6.2 Book
Gunnevera* 9.5 Book, same, 13 FiveD
Practical Joke 17 Book, 17.5 FiveD, 21 FiveD
*J Boys Echo* 33 FiveD, 50 FiveD, 20.5 Book
*State of Honor* 70 FiveD, 55 FiveD, 60.5 Book
*Tapwrit* 20 FiveD, 18.1 Book, 23 FiveD
*Hence* 20.6 Book, same, 19.5 FiveD
*Fast and Accurate* 80.5 Book, 80.3 Book, 63 FiveD
*McCraken 8 Book, same, 8 FiveD
*Battle of Midway 28 FiveD, 35 FiveD, 30.6 Book
*Patch 60 FiveD, 54.5 Book, 37 FiveD
Untrapped 50 FiveD, 45.5 Book, 40 FiveD
Lookin at Lee 25.6 Book, 25 FiveD, 20 FiveD
Sonneteer 51.5 Book, 43.8 Book, 40 FiveD
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(The asterisks don't mean anything. They are an artifact of my copy-and-paste.)
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