Should Hillary have been charged in email scandal?

[OldDog]

The MSM is falling over themselves trying to control the email damage to HRC's campaign, but they only make matters worse.



Oh, and the top story at the Washington Post right now is headlined, “Trump urges Russia to hack Clinton’s emails and release them publicly.” CNN went with, “Donald Trump encourages Russia to hack Hillary Clinton.”

But the Clinton camp told us that her server(s) couldn't be hacked. And aren't they in the possession of the FBI, or were they returned? And aren't the 30,000 deleted emails about yoga and wedding planning, anyway?

Remember this?
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2...-records/?_r=0
And Palin wasn't even a candidate yet.

Mollie Hemingway nails it:
http://thefederalist.com/2016/07/27/...ssian-hacking/

Tweets of the day

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by OldDog

Mollie Hemingway nails it:
http://thefederalist.com/2016/07/27/...ssian-hacking/

Brilliant. Myopic DNC policies and an even more myopic base lend themselves to this level of abject stupidity. Mollie Hemingway has a unique knack of taking an independent viewpoint and putting it succinctly and embarrassingly into perspective.

4 Ways Donald Trump is Living Rent-Free in the DNC's Head:

http://thefederalist.com/2016/07/27/...the-dncs-head/

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by OldDog

The MSM is falling over themselves trying to control the email damage to HRC's campaign, but they only make matters worse.



Oh, and the top story at the Washington Post right now is headlined, “Trump urges Russia to hack Clinton’s emails and release them publicly.” CNN went with, “Donald Trump encourages Russia to hack Hillary Clinton.”

But the Clinton camp told us that her server(s) couldn't be hacked. And aren't they in the possession of the FBI, or were they returned? And aren't the 30,000 deleted emails about yoga and wedding planning, anyway?

Remember this?
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2...-records/?_r=0
And Palin wasn't even a candidate yet.

Mollie Hemingway nails it:
http://thefederalist.com/2016/07/27/...ssian-hacking/

Tweets of the day

just because that dipshit said Russia should hack them doesn't mean they can.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by OldDog

The MSM is falling over themselves trying to control the email damage to HRC's campaign, but they only make matters worse.



Oh, and the top story at the Washington Post right now is headlined, “Trump urges Russia to hack Clinton’s emails and release them publicly.” CNN went with, “Donald Trump encourages Russia to hack Hillary Clinton.”

But the Clinton camp told us that her server(s) couldn't be hacked. And aren't they in the possession of the FBI, or were they returned? And aren't the 30,000 deleted emails about yoga and wedding planning, anyway?

Remember this?
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2...-records/?_r=0
And Palin wasn't even a candidate yet.

Mollie Hemingway nails it:
http://thefederalist.com/2016/07/27/...ssian-hacking/

Tweets of the day

So tell me that you think it is ok for Trump a candidate for president of the United States to have said what he said. I despise Hillary but for **** sake he needs to keep his ****ing mouth shut. I await your response cause I have a morbid curiosity seeing how someone justifies an unjustifiable position. Whatever she did or didnt do doesn't justify this. Actually we should be ****ing embarassed as citizens of the United States to have our leaders say **** like this. He keeps this up and the 100-1 on Paul Ryan isnt as crazy as it seems.

[saratogadew]

He was joking...

[jms62]

Originally Posted by saratogadew

He was joking...

Im sure all on the fence voters got the joke and will now vote for him cause of his great sense of humor. What is his next joke ? Internment camps?

[saratogadew]

Originally Posted by jms62

Im sure all on the fence voters got the joke and will now vote for him cause of his great sense of humor. What is his next joke ? Internment camps?

So many experts agree that it was the Russians that hacked the DNC emails. So Trump makes an "off the cuff" comment that maybe they can dig up her 30,000 deleted emails. Now we equate that to internment camps? Hell, let's get real wacky and equate it to joking about slavery. Come on man.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by saratogadew

So many experts agree that it was the Russians that hacked the DNC emails. So Trump makes an "off the cuff" comment that maybe they can dig up her 30,000 deleted emails. Now we equate that to internment camps? Hell, let's get real wacky and equate it to joking about slavery. Come on man.

Off the cuff? Was the tweet reiterating his earlier comment also off the cuff?
Strange evidence of how trump will be the law and order candidate.
I remember a gop president telling gorbachev to tear down the berlin wall. And now this complete idiot says come cyber hack a major party nominee....

This guy wants to be commander in chief?! Its a sad joke

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Danzig

Off the cuff? Was the tweet reiterating his earlier comment also off the cuff?
Strange evidence of how trump will be the law and order candidate.
I remember a gop president telling gorbachev to tear down the berlin wall. And now this complete idiot says come cyber hack a major party nominee....

This guy wants to be commander in chief?! Its a sad joke

Wouldn't it be sadder for the person who "lost" 30,000 emails (that they didn't want the FBI to see) to be commander in chief?

Using alleged incompetence to cover criminal intent, and then trying to get elected for being "only careless" ?

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by jms62

So tell me that you think it is ok for Trump a candidate for president of the United States to have said what he said. I despise Hillary but for **** sake he needs to keep his ****ing mouth shut. I await your response cause I have a morbid curiosity seeing how someone justifies an unjustifiable position. Whatever she did or didnt do doesn't justify this.Actually we should be ****ing embarassed as citizens of the United States to have our leaders say **** like this. He keeps this up and the 100-1 on Paul Ryan isnt as crazy as it seems.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Anyone who would actually watch the press conference rather than read these embarrassing NY Times and Washington Post headlines would see clearly that this was back and forth banter with a reporter and was clearly tongue in cheek.

The fact that it is resonating so deeply with a few is that they either a. haven't physically seen it, b. don't understand how this guy has completely overtaken, and is now directing the DNC narrative.

Bill Clinton's speech, which was supposed to be a cornerstone in redefining her impossibly irreparable image, is now a long forgotten, distant memory.

Let's suppose, just for a moment, that Hillary WASN'T lying (I know, I know...impossible to believe, but humor me) and these 33,000 emails were REALLY all about yoga and wedding plans. No espionage, no divulging of state secrets...What is her loss? A little embarrassment over her pompousness, laziness and stupidity? SHE WANTS TO BE IN CHARGE OF THE FUC!<ING NUCLEAR CODES FOR FUC1<S SAKE.

Now, let's say that she actually didn't give a sh1t about any of that cuz she's the Sec of State and queen of the free world and all those pesky security regulations and FOIA rules don't apply to her - and vital security documents were hacked (NSA puts those odds at about 90%, BTW) - WTF does Trump bringing this to light change? Were they NOT going to use them until he "gave them permission??!!"

Absolutely astounding to me the uproar over this, when the DOJ let her walk out the prison gates for this precise negligence.

I for one thought it was hilarious - IN IT'S CONTEXT - and a joke that the left has their panties in a twist - it is 100% their candidate's ridiculously poor judgement that has created this mess - not Trump.

[Pants II]

Jim if Russia is so bad what are your distant kin doing living over there and Saudi Arabia?

Also, you're mad as f.uck go full ****** over Trump responding to an issue that wouldn't exist if the person you're going to support (not voting for Trump is pro Hillary, bub. Lie to yourself all you'd like) wasn't a complicit imbecile and put a server in her basement running top secret documents.

Serious, dude?

What's rrrrrreally your issue with Trump? Yeah it's a loaded question. Yes you make my blood boil. Yes you can go f.uck yourself.

And yes I'm back and f.uck Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders and every other non-American globalist scumbag.

Go to your safe spaces.

Bring in Chicago Bob aka Baghdad Bob.

Lets have all out war before the cabal starts WWIII in our streets.

[RHT2004]

Originally Posted by Pants II

Jim if Russia is so bad what are your distant kin doing living over there and Saudi Arabia?

Also, you're mad as f.uck go full ****** over Trump responding to an issue that wouldn't exist if the person you're going to support (not voting for Trump is pro Hillary, bub. Lie to yourself all you'd like) wasn't a complicit imbecile and put a server in her basement running top secret documents.

Serious, dude?

What's rrrrrreally your issue with Trump? Yeah it's a loaded question. Yes you make my blood boil. Yes you can go f.uck yourself.

And yes I'm back and f.uck Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders and every other non-American globalist scumbag.

Go to your safe spaces.

Bring in Chicago Bob aka Baghdad Bob.

Lets have all out war before the cabal starts WWIII in our streets.

Glad your back brother.

[Pants II]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

Glad your back brother.

Thanks but I'm not glad...I'm mad. Mad as hell.

If supposedly smart people like Jim get triggered more over what Trump said than what Hillary did then truly there is no hope.

Statistically he's one of the best handicappers in the country and he fell hook, line and sinker for another media spun lie.

I have to believe he's not that dumb and is just an adversary. And that's fine we just need to let each other know our ancestry at least. Because without knowing who we are and where we came from then we're just yelling at each other.

I pretty much know why. It's beyond an individuals control, IMO. These divisions have been going on for thousands of years for a reason. I think a lot of people have lost their way with this fact. ESPECIALLY MY OWN KIND.

And I know how vicious these people are. I risk everything speaking truth. Greater people have made quotes similar, yanno.

It's all about bloodlines. Bloomberg hates Trump because of his ancestry. Pure and simple.

It's the only rational way to explain why they overlook their own when they're "racist", "sexist", or any other word the commies use to silence their opposition.

Hell Hillary knows she's from the same area where Saul is from.

Seriously these people are destined for destruction. It's like they feed on it like a termite infestation in a crack house.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Pants II

Jim if Russia is so bad what are your distant kin doing living over there and Saudi Arabia?

Also, you're mad as f.uck go full ****** over Trump responding to an issue that wouldn't exist if the person you're going to support (not voting for Trump is pro Hillary, bub. Lie to yourself all you'd like) wasn't a complicit imbecile and put a server in her basement running top secret documents.

Serious, dude?

What's rrrrrreally your issue with Trump? Yeah it's a loaded question. Yes you make my blood boil. Yes you can go f.uck yourself.

And yes I'm back and f.uck Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders and every other non-American globalist scumbag.

Go to your safe spaces.

Bring in Chicago Bob aka Baghdad Bob.

Lets have all out war before the cabal starts WWIII in our streets.

Welcome back I collect on the under bet My problem with Trump is he needs to shut his ****ing mouth and act like a president and not someone shooting the **** between races a Saratoga. It brings on this shitstorm and doesnt help his chances. I get your Not voting for Trump support Hillary and won't be supporting her. This is about sharing thoughts on strategies that are not helping the cause. One thing I won't tolerate is someone threatening or intimidating me for what I say. I am perfectly capable in defending myself more than one way. So welcome back Coach. Were do we go from here? Do we keep it civil?

[Pants II]

Originally Posted by jms62

Welcome back I collect on the under bet My problem with Trump is he needs to shut his ****ing mouth and act like a president and not someone shooting the **** between races a Saratoga. It brings on this shitstorm and doesnt help his chances. I get your Not voting for Trump support Hillary and won't be supporting her. This is about sharing thoughts on strategies that are not helping the cause. One thing I won't tolerate is someone threatening or intimidating me for what I say. I am perfectly capable in defending myself more than one way. So welcome back Coach. Were do we go from here? Do we keep it civil?

**** the media-driven narrative that Presidential campaigns have been civil.

Dude I'll just put you on ignore until we have enough **** happens where you finally have that Eureka! moment.

FFS Jim I like you but turn off the cable news. They're all idiots and radical lesbians and guys who want to be a radical lesbian.

You'll feel better.

[OldDog]

Originally Posted by jms62

So tell me that you think it is ok for Trump a candidate for president of the United States to have said what he said. I despise Hillary but for **** sake he needs to keep his ****ing mouth shut. I await your response cause I have a morbid curiosity seeing how someone justifies an unjustifiable position. Whatever she did or didnt do doesn't justify this. Actually we should be ****ing embarassed as citizens of the United States to have our leaders say **** like this. He keeps this up and the 100-1 on Paul Ryan isnt as crazy as it seems.

I think is was clever, perhaps even brilliant, and the Clinton campaign and its media arm took the bait.

Trump never called on the Russians to hack into Hillary's deleted emails. At this point, they can't. IF the Russians or anyone else has her deleted emails they hacked them long ago.

Hillary's lawyers deleted the 30,000 or so emails and she defended this by claiming that they contained only non-work related information, and the Democratic operatives with bylines readily accepted her word as fact. Either she was truthful -- for once -- and the emails pose no national security threat, or she misled a nation and they do. But at this point, as she once famously said, what difference does it make? If the Russians have them, they have them. Nothing that Trump said will change that.

Either way, it's fascinating to ONLY NOW see Democrats and their media allies freaking out over the national security implications of a SOS using a private server. Even more how they try to spin Trump's call for the exposure of "personal" emails as a treasonous act.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by OldDog

I think is was clever, perhaps even brilliant, and the Clinton campaign and its media arm took the bait.

Trump never called on the Russians to hack into Hillary's deleted emails. At this point, they can't. IF the Russians or anyone else has her deleted emails they hacked them long ago.

Hillary's lawyers deleted the 30,000 or so emails and she defended this by claiming that they contained only non-work related information, and the Democratic operatives with bylines readily accepted her word as fact. Either she was truthful -- for once -- and the emails pose no national security threat, or she misled a nation and they do. But at this point, as she once famously said, what difference does it make? If the Russians have them, they have them. Nothing that Trump said will change that.

Either way, it's fascinating to ONLY NOW see Democrats and their media allies freaking out over the national security implications of a SOS using a private server. Even more how they try to spin Trump's call for the exposure of "personal" emails as a treasonous act.

they aren't freaking out of implications of a private server.
they are, rightfully so, freaking out about this dumbass saying hey Russia, hack my political opponent.
and hell, even gop folks are up in arms about it (or are you ignoring that part?) as they should be. I cannot believe you are saying this is no big deal. a potential president is calling for this for a foreign power, and Russia at that, and you say no big deal?
that's crazy.

[Danzig]

I have a question for those who said Hilary should have been charged.

what charges should she have gotten? what laws were broken?

[Danzig]

William Inboden, who served on the NSC during the George W. Bush administration, said Trump’s comments were “tantamount to treason.”

“Trump’s appeal for a foreign government hostile to the United States to manipulate our electoral process is not an assault on Hillary Clinton, it is an assault on the Constitution,” said Inboden, who now teaches at the University of Texas at Austin.


GOP strategist Stuart Stevens, who advised Mitt Romney, the party’s nominee in 2012, suggested that Trump’s remarks would have merited an immediate court-martial if they’d been made by anyone answering to the commander in chief

the briefest of statements from House Speaker Paul Ryan’s spokesman, who wrote, “Russia is a global menace led by a devious thug. Putin should stay out of this election.”

Trump’s running mate, Mike Pence, released a statement soon after that seemed to attempt to steer the campaign back upon saner streets: “The FBI will get to the bottom of who is behind the hacking [of the DNC’s emails]. If it is Russia and they are interfering in our elections, I can assure you both parties and the United States government will ensure there are serious consequences.”