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Old 07-12-2016, 06:08 PM
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AS,

I appreciate your humor (sometimes), but you'd be hard pressed to find 3-5 good opinions that you have had on the races prior to the running of the race. Your best opinion is that of our fearless leader, who's picks you probably blindly bet w/o looking at the pp's.

You're still funny, so there's that.
Dec I won the Saratoga contest back to back years and called Creator as the bet of the year 3 weeks before the Belmont . I may have been wrong about mo Damour but at least she's 20-1 or more every time .

My angles are what I play religiously, but if you ignore Byk you are being foolish. I've hit plenty of bet blind Byk tickets. But I was cashing tickets when I was 12.

Here are some of what I bet or don't bet

No bets....
Adding lasix off a win.....never
Win the 1x run back in the 2x.....absolutely not
13 or more final furlong... No thanks 7 or more final 1/16 ...um, no
Leo Obrien, Zito , or other guys who don't win....no Dallas Stewart...nope
No gappy guys
Hosses who don't pass....eliminate em


Good angles
Forster Homebred for a tag off a short set
Passers of hosses
Blinkers off
1:02 5 furlong works
Shug 5/8 work after all those halfs
Street boss first time turf
Stack mare turf
Grand slam mares
Early bullets so that they know he has speed and can build a bottom
Inside to outside post
Lone race experience in race
Turn back to one turn
GATE EXCUSE first start.... Best of them all
Mare power....that is , at least one winning sibling in the grass
Byk's next best ( secret code for whom to bet flat)
See these angles at work in the pick 5 at Belmont tomorrow

1-4-5
6-7
3-4-5
1-5-6
2-6-9
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Old 07-12-2016, 06:13 PM
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Dec I won the Saratoga contest back to back years and called Creator as the bet of the year 3 weeks before the Belmont . I may have been wrong about mo Damour but at least she's 20-1 or more every time .

My angles are what I play religiously, but if you ignore Byk you are being foolish. I've hit plenty of bet blind Byk tickets. But I was cashing tickets when I was 12.

Here are some of what I bet or don't bet

No bets....
Adding lasix off a win.....never
Win the 1x run back in the 2x.....absolutely not
13 or more final furlong... No thanks 7 or more final 1/16 ...um, no
Leo Obrien, Zito , or other guys who don't win....no Dallas Stewart...nope
No gappy guys
Hosses who don't pass....eliminate em


Good angles
Forster Homebred for a tag off a short set
Passers of hosses
Blinkers off
1:02 5 furlong works
Shug 5/8 work after all those halfs
Street boss first time turf
Stack mare turf
Grand slam mares
Early bullets so that they know he has speed and can build a bottom
Inside to outside post
Lone race experience in race
Turn back to one turn
GATE EXCUSE first start.... Best of them all
Mare power....that is , at least one winning sibling in the grass
Byk's next best ( secret code for whom to bet flat)
See these angles at work in the pick 5 at Belmont tomorrow

1-4-5
6-7
3-4-5
1-5-6
2-6-9

I appreciate the response.

I'm fully aware of your Toga tourney prowess. I've brought your picks up to a few guys that I know follow this board when I see them at the Turf Club. Phenomenal job, truly. ..... But Rock has turned things around. His image and his handicapping definitely has taken a 180 over the years. Anybody that denies that is delusional. He's made bets before that made me question if he's crazier than JimmyEllis, but who am I to speak of their validity. I'd like to think they've all been real, but I don't have much doubt about his recent string of success. Props due.
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Old 07-12-2016, 07:45 PM
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I appreciate the response.

I'm fully aware of your Toga tourney prowess. I've brought your picks up to a few guys that I know follow this board when I see them at the Turf Club. Phenomenal job, truly. ..... But Rock has turned things around. His image and his handicapping definitely has taken a 180 over the years. Anybody that denies that is delusional. He's made bets before that made me question if he's crazier than JimmyEllis, but who am I to speak of their validity. I'd like to think they've all been real, but I don't have much doubt about his recent string of success. Props due.

Kind words. I appreciate it, truly. I love racing, its my passion. I used to act like an ******* and I have worked hard to put that behind me, here and in my day to day life. I put a lot of time in my handicapping and Alabama is just blatantly disrespectful when it comes to me. Nothing he says about me has any substance.... He's been challenged, I doubt he accepts.
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Old 07-12-2016, 08:19 PM
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Was that when you changed from rock hard ten username ?

So you pm me out of nowhere and tell me to stop praising Byk, and also to tell some guy who hasn't posted here in years (Dahoss) who I wouldn't know from Adam, that he is a fraud. Can you explain why ?

Do you really think the display against lone star will get it done vs me ? How much do you want to lose ?
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Old 07-12-2016, 09:25 PM
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Was that when you changed from rock hard ten username ?

So you pm me out of nowhere and tell me to stop praising Byk, and also to tell some guy who hasn't posted here in years (Dahoss) who I wouldn't know from Adam, that he is a fraud. Can you explain why ?

Do you really think the display against lone star will get it done vs me ? How much do you want to lose ?
Whatever, whenever. You can pick everything. I'll just win.
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Old 07-12-2016, 08:19 PM
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If there was a best on Derby Trail Thread this would have to be considered.

People wonder why narcotics are so prevalent....How cant you after reading this.
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Old 07-12-2016, 09:31 PM
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[quote=Alabama Stakes;1069192]
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Dec I won the Saratoga contest back to back years and called Creator as the bet of the year 3 weeks before the Belmont . I may have been wrong about mo Damour but at least she's 20-1 or more every time .

My angles are what I play religiously, but if you ignore Byk you are being foolish. I've hit plenty of bet blind Byk tickets. But I was cashing tickets when I was 12.

Here are some of what I bet or don't bet

No bets....
Adding lasix off a win.....never
Win the 1x run back in the 2x.....absolutely not
13 or more final furlong... No thanks 7 or more final 1/16 ...um, no
Leo Obrien, Zito , or other guys who don't win....no Dallas Stewart...nope
No gappy guys
Hosses who don't pass....eliminate em


Good angles
Forster Homebred for a tag off a short set
Passers of hosses
Blinkers off
1:02 5 furlong works
Shug 5/8 work after all those halfs
Street boss first time turf
Stack mare turf
Grand slam mares
Early bullets so that they know he has speed and can build a bottom
Inside to outside post
Lone race experience in race
Turn back to one turn
GATE EXCUSE first start.... Best of them all
Mare power....that is , at least one winning sibling in the grass
Byk's next best ( secret code for whom to bet flat)
See these angles at work in the pick 5 at Belmont tomorrow

1-4-5
6-7
3-4-5
1-5-6
2-6-9
Forgot to ask this earlier..... 3 deep in the 6 horse 1st?? Is that a normal move for you.
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Old 07-12-2016, 09:36 PM
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No . Will drop the shortest price hoss . That was just a browse pick 5 capped during this mornings double flusher ghost.
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