Pulse Nightclub Terror Attack - Orlando

[somerfrost]

What can we do? Well, lets start with a complete ban on automatic weapons along with max clips. Secondly we need to ramp up mental health treatments, begin with mandatory evaluations for 4th, 8th, and 12 grade students. We must drastically improve our intelligence gathering capabilities inclusive of data bases that list all criminal activity that allow a complete background review that must be done by ALL folks purchasing guns...no exceptions. We must cut off all aid to countries that refuse to stand against terrorism. Finally, immigration must be looked at from the standpoint of leading to eventual citizenship...those who philosophy is not in line with the democratic ideals of our country need to immigrate elsewhere.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

What can we do? Well, lets start with a complete ban on automatic weapons along with max clips. Secondly we need to ramp up mental health treatments, begin with mandatory evaluations for 4th, 8th, and 12 grade students. We must drastically improve our intelligence gathering capabilities inclusive of data bases that list all criminal activity that allow a complete background review that must be done by ALL folks purchasing guns...no exceptions. We must cut off all aid to countries that refuse to stand against terrorism. Finally, immigration must be looked at from the standpoint of leading to eventual citizenship...those who philosophy is not in line with the democratic ideals of our country need to immigrate elsewhere.

We have a no fly list, why not a no buy list on guns for people that have mental
issues or have been interviewed by the FBI more then once..especially on automatic killing machines..and that goes for everyone not only those with middle eastern names..

[jms62]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/breaki...cid=spartanntp

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by jms62

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/breaki...cid=spartanntp

The hardest thing to explain is the glaringly evident which everybody has decided not to see"
~ Ayn Rand

[Pants II]

The Muslims have to be temporarily banned from entering the country and any Muslim who has been on a watch list has to be brought in and more than likely deported.

Then we can talk about the gun issue. If not....f.uck you they can continue to come in and we can increase the statistics to the point we're talking about 100 terrorist attacks by Muslims a day.

And you idiots will still bring up the random Christian nut attack.

In other words...we're no longer negotiating with your kind. You better bring in 30 million of the motherf.uckers between now and November, you brain-dead traitors.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by bigrun

We have a no fly list, why not a no buy list on guns for people that have mental
issues or have been interviewed by the FBI more then once..especially on automatic killing machines..and that goes for everyone not only those with middle eastern names..

I wonder why him wanting to buy body armor didnt generate...anything? Then again, he may have said it was for work. But, hell, they said even police dont have what he asked for.
Truly, nothing easy about this. But we at least need 100% background checks. I just do not get how people are saying he did thisx this, and this....and nothing? Wasnt currently being watched, free to buy guns, several in just a couple days time. Hell, ive got about 20 guns in our safe, took us 30 years to aquire. He got 3 in a couple days. And not a peep

[Danzig]

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...nap-story.html

And just aaw this, thank goodness he was there!!

[Rupert Pupkin]

The Obama Administration is currently bringing 100 Syrian refugees into the US every day. How many of you think that is a good idea? The vetting process was originally supposed to take 18-24 months, but now they are doing it in just 3 months so that Obama can bring in as many as possible before he leaves office. Hillary supports this program.

Trump made a very good point about Hillary being in favor of bringing in all these refugees. He said something to the effect of, 'How can Hillary claim to be a supporter of the gay community while wanting to bring in tens of thousands of people who want to oppress and possibly even murder gay people.' Do Hillary and Obama think that these tens of thousands of refugees are tolerant of gay people? The bottom line is that the vast majority of these people are from a totally different culture and they have totally different values than the values shared by the vast majority of Americans. As the polls have showed, a high percentage of the people coming here from these Muslim countries are in favor of Sharia Law. They would like it to become the law of the land in America. Do any of you think it is a good idea to bring people to America who support Sharia Law? By the way, homosexuality is punishable by death under Sharia Law.

[Pants II]

The better question is can a white Christian be employed by a company contracted with DHS and have multiple FBI investigations and a father who spouts hate on an internet radio show and a mother who beats the father?

Would that white boy be able to purchase a weapon under this administration? Do any of you actually believe if the white boy was interviewed not once, but twice and traveled twice to Louisiana to meet with David Duke that the FBI would close the investigation?



Pray for the evil Americans under investigation for selling raw milk. They sure as f.uck know the FBI leaves no stone unturned

Have a nice day. Enjoy the time you have left on this earth. Keep voting for dems and cucks. Embrace being second-class citizens.

[Pants II]

Confiscate all of the legally registered guns but it's not going to solve the problem.

Most of us who aren't brainwashed by the liberals know that the law enforcement agencies aren't going into the sharia and gang zones to confiscate. Our leaders and the police don't have the balls to do anything about the criminals. In fact before this latest terror attack Bernie and Obama were talking about freeing minority criminals. (Yeah they didn't necessarily say minorities but anyone who can fog a mirror knows what they're talking about).

We really should, at the very least, be having impeachment proceedings. After yesterdays "lecture" he is clearly not mentally fit to lead the next 7 months.

But nobody in the beltway has any balls. They all start menstruating when Trump acts halfway like a man.

[Danzig]

Lets take a look at mass shootings here in the u.s.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...the-deadliest/

See, ii wondered this morning...just how many of these islamic extremist mass shootings have we had? How many in total? If we sealed our borders, how many of these shootings could have been prevented? In order of.priority, taking on the worst cause first, what should be our first target to change?

Now, barring muslim immigrstion might be the easiest solution....but we would still not have solved the problem, considering the above.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Any chance that Obama's DOJ will bring accessory after the fact charges against this cur?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/06/13...-massacre.html

Nah, didn't think so either. But to be fair, there's not a chance that Clinton's DOJ would either. She and hubby are much busy lining their pockets with Saudi, Qurtari, et al. money to upset the apple cart.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Danzig

Lets take a look at mass shootings here in the u.s.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...the-deadliest/

See, ii wondered this morning...just how many of these islamic extremist mass shootings have we had? How many in total? If we sealed our borders, how many of these shootings could have been prevented? In order of.priority, taking on the worst cause first, what should be our first target to change?

Now, barring muslim immigrstion might be the easiest solution....but we would still not have solved the problem, considering the above.

First of all, Muslims make up only 1% of the population in the US. So if they account for even just 20% of politically motivated terrorist attacks in this country, that means they are 20x more likely than anyone else to commit a terrorist attack. In addition, how many of their planned attacks have been thwarted by law enforcement? There have been dozens of attacks thwarted by law enforcement. Law enforcement has done a very good job overall in terms of monitoring suspicious people and stopping attacks before they happen. But they can't stop every attack. In addition, the financial cost and the cost in manpower is extreme. We are spending hundreds of millions of dollars monitoring these people. It's not easy to keep thousands of people under some type of surveillance. And the more of these people that are brought over here, the tougher it will be.

Right now law enforcement probably thwarts 95% of these attacks. So if there are 50 plots out there in the works every year, maybe 2 out of 50 will succeed. This past year there were two attacks that succeeded, San Bernadino and now Orlando. In many of these cases, the terrorists are people that are familiar to law enforcement. This guy was familiar to law enforcement. They had been tipped off about this guy's radical beliefs in the past. And the same goes for the Boston Marathon bombers. They had been interviewed by law enforcement in the past.

The FBI has to let these people go if there is no imminent threat. And they can't keep these people under 24 hour surveillance. Obama wants to bring in another 100,000 Syrian refugees. It's going to be impossible for law enforcement to monitor all of these people.The more of these people you bring you over here, the more plots there will be. I'm not claiming that most of these people will be terrorists. There will probably only be a very small percentage that will be terrorists or potential terrorists, maybe 1 or 2% at the most. But 1% of 100,000 is 1,000. That's a lot of potential terrorists.

I'd rather bring immigrants here from countries where we don't have to worry about these things. There is no other race or religion where we have to worry about these things. If a student comes over from Korea, is there a risk that he might be a terrorist? No. The same goes for practically every other non-Muslim country.

I think Obama honestly believes that if he brings tens of thousands of Muslims here that the Muslim population around the world will see this and then they won't dislike America any more. Obama honestly thinks it will make us safer in the long run. He lives in a fantasy world. If you have some young angry Muslim in the Middle East who wants to join ISIS, that guy is not going to chnage his mind as a result of seeing the US bring in 100,000 Syrian refugees. Obama thinks these people are rational and that their hatred for America is rational. He thinks that if we behave a little differently that they won't hate us any more. It is pure fantasy.

[OldDog]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

The Obama Administration is currently bringing 100 Syrian refugees into the US every day. How many of you think that is a good idea? The vetting process was originally supposed to take 18-24 months, but now they are doing it in just 3 months so that Obama can bring in as many as possible before he leaves office. Hillary supports this program.

Trump made a very good point about Hillary being in favor of bringing in all these refugees. He said something to the effect of, 'How can Hillary claim to be a supporter of the gay community while wanting to bring in tens of thousands of people who want to oppress and possibly even murder gay people.' Do Hillary and Obama think that these tens of thousands of refugees are tolerant of gay people? The bottom line is that the vast majority of these people are from a totally different culture and they have totally different values than the values shared by the vast majority of Americans. As the polls have showed, a high percentage of the people coming here from these Muslim countries are in favor of Sharia Law. They would like it to become the law of the land in America. Do any of you think it is a good idea to bring people to America who support Sharia Law? By the way, homosexuality is punishable by death under Sharia Law.

Obama and supporters of this policy are either dangerously naïve or complicit. And folks will someday gasp, "oh, really?" when People Magazine announces that the most popular newborn boys' name has become Muhammad.

https://www.conservativereview.com/c...-islamic-jihad

[Pants II]

Originally Posted by OldDog

Obama and supporters of this policy are either dangerously naïve or complicit. And folks will someday gasp, "oh, really?" when People Magazine announces that the most popular newborn boys' name has become Muhammad.

https://www.conservativereview.com/c...-islamic-jihad

They've got a completely rational excuse when it does.

"51% (really 22% or so)are named after the boxer. Islam isn't the problem. Boxing is the problem, you racissssss!"