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05-04-2016, 12:11 PM
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This requires new infrastructure and that's not gonna happen in the near future.
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05-04-2016, 12:35 PM
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Felix Unger talking to Oscar Madison: "Your horse could finish third by 20 lengths and they still pay you? And you have been losing money for all these years?!"
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05-04-2016, 12:41 PM
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Hey...they've done it before.
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05-04-2016, 12:52 PM
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05-04-2016, 12:51 PM
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I sincerely hope this goes well because it's a game changer for the industry and for players. Selfishly, I view this as a potential career.
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please use generalizations and non-truths when arguing your side, thank you
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05-04-2016, 01:10 PM
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05-04-2016, 01:27 PM
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05-04-2016, 10:05 PM
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I don't know, these 2 paragraphs really make you wonder......it reads so bad....
Other industry groups have been reluctant to endorse the site because of fears that racing fans and handicappers will increasingly accuse horsemen and jockeys of deliberately keeping horses from winning because one side in every exchange wager is betting on a horse to lose. Betfair has countered that its system is adept at identifying suspicious wagers and that the company has and will continue to cooperate with all investigations of betting patterns on the site. Earlier this year, the Jockeys’ Guild held a panel at its annual assembly urging jockeys to use caution when riding at tracks that allow exchange wagering on their races, in anticipation of the launch of the site. The recommendations included declining to allow owners or trainers to pick up checks at restaurants or otherwise accepting gifts from horsemen, along with exercising restraint when discussing their horses’ chances.
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05-13-2016, 04:32 AM
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Dunleavy: Early thoughts on exchange wagering
By Jim Dunleavy For the past several weeks, I have been playing on the beta version of the exchange-wagering platform that Monmouth Park and Betfair launched Tuesday. I am intrigued by the possibilities this style of gambling represents and think it will really catch on with players if rolled out to a wider audience. Unfortunately, New Jersey and California are the only two states to legalize exchange wagering, and California is still working out its regulatory policies. For the moment, you can only participate if you are a New Jersey resident and are physically within state’s boundaries. In exchange wagering, bettors can back or lay odds on horses in a particular race. If I lay, or bet against, a horse, I might put up $100 at odds of 5.5-1 (which is really 4.5-1 plus your money back). Anyone wishing to back, or bet, the horse at that price can take, or match, a piece or all of my offer. But if someone thinks 5.5-1 is too short a price, they can post an offer to back that horse at say 7-1. If anyone wishes to give them that price, with a few simple clicks of their mouse, they can match part or all of the bet. Exchange wagering is all done via computer or tablet. Horseplayers are always looking for value, but in parimutuel betting that basically comes down to betting a horse at a price you think is fair, or more than fair. Since exchange wagering is fixed-price betting – the price you get is set once you wager – players in some instances can create their own value. Here is a example of how I played Wednesday’s fourth race at Louisiana Downs, on which I ended up losing $1.67. I quickly handicapped the nine-horse field of restricted $5,000 claiming sprinters. I had never seen any of them race before. When I compared what I thought the odds on the top choices would be at post time to the exchange prices being offered, they looked pretty much in line. But I noticed that someone was offering 30-1 on the No. 5, First Prize Dixie. I thought those odds were too high and that he would be shorter at post time, so I matched the $11 that was being offered at 30-1. Because the Betfair software always gives you the best available price, I actually got 30.51-1 and stood to make a profit of $324.64 if First Prize Dixie won the race. As the betting went on in the run up to the race, First Prize Dixie’s parimutuel odds dropped at Louisiana Downs and his exchange prices followed. I laid $10 against First Prize Dixie at 18-1, and somebody matched $9.33 of it. (I’m not sure if the odd number has to do with currency exchange rates, as players from overseas can bet into these pools, or if I was playing against a bot, or computer.) Anyway, I stood to lose $158.61 to this player if First Prize Dixie won. Overall if First Prize Dixie won, I stood to make $166.03 ($324.64 minus $158.61). If he didn’t win, I would lose $1.67 ($11 minus the $9.33 from my buddy the bot). That means I was getting 98-1 on First Prize Dixie, who eventually went off at 18-1 at Louisiana Downs. As it turns out, he got to within about four lengths of the lead in upper stretch and then tired to finish eighth. Here is what I have learned on the exchange site so far. Handicapping is still important, but not as much as in a parimutuel environment. Betting, strategy, and being able to estimate a horse’s closing odds play a much more significant role than in parimutuel wagering. Quickly, another play I have been using with some success involves backing one horse in a race to win and laying another to lose. It’s possible you can win both of those bets, or win one and lose one and hedge your losses. You also can lose both, however, if the horse you backed loses and the horse you laid odds on wins, so be careful. I also have been able to get a number of overlays in the exchange pools, 6-1 or 8-1 on horses that are 9-2 shots at the track, for example. * I have not yet seen or participated in any in-race betting, which is expected to be possibly the most popular part of exchange wagering. I believe Mountaineer offers in-race play, but it is not yet being offered on any of the tracks I have bet so far. In-race betting will be available at Monmouth. * Exchange wagering is only available in win, place, and show pools.
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All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984.
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