On their knees for ole Frankie

The Bid · #1 12-15-2006, 09:17 AM

Scav

If Murph isnt the best at what he does I will kiss your ass. Not only that the guy is a top notch and treats people unreal.

Scav · #2 12-15-2006, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bid

Scav

If Murph isnt the best at what he does I will kiss your ass. Not only that the guy is a top notch and treats people unreal.

Not saying that, I am sure he is great and a good person, but I am just sick at how people kiss Stronarch's behind.

Honestly, I think he has done nothing but good for the industry, where there are alot of haters of him, but his behind is going to be raw from all the kisses he has there

#3 12-15-2006, 09:46 AM

No doubt Stronach has revolutionized the game. I long for the day that i'm notified through e-mail that i've been terminated. It is at that moment that I'll know that i've been touched by the hand of GOD.

blackthroatedwind · #4 12-15-2006, 09:48 AM

I'll tell you one thing " Frank " has done.....ruined Gulfstream Park for horseplayers.

Believe me, it wasn't easy.

#5 12-15-2006, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I'll tell you one thing " Frank " has done.....ruined Gulfstream Park for horseplayers.

Believe me, it wasn't easy.

How has he ruined it?

Kasept · #6 12-15-2006, 10:12 AM

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How has he ruined it?

Once famed for its gracious and expansive backyard setting to enjoy the winter sun in Florida, there is now not ONE BLADE OF GRASS AVAILABLE TO SEE... Paved over everything...

There is no where to sit for the most part, unless you pay $20 for an indoor simulcast carrel or the dining room minimums... The atmosphere is closed and claustrophobic throughout downstairs.

Betting tellers are difficult to access unless you are in the upstairs dining rooms, and those are no bargain either... There's a taste of the new Gulfstream..

blackthroatedwind · #7 12-15-2006, 10:13 AM

Other than that it's.....mediocre.

paisjpq · #8 12-15-2006, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

Once famed for its gracious and expansive backyard setting to enjoy the winter sun in Florida, there is now not ONE BLADE OF GRASS AVAILABLE TO SEE... Paved over everything...

There is no where to sit for the most part, unless you pay $20 for an indoor simulcast carrel or the dining room minimums... The atmosphere is closed and claustrophobic throughout downstairs.

Betting tellers are difficult to access unless you are in the upstairs dining rooms, and those are no bargain either... There's a taste of the new Gulfstream..

and they removed the rail from around the fountain

LMAO

#9 12-15-2006, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

Once famed for its gracious and expansive backyard setting to enjoy the winter sun in Florida, there is now not ONE BLADE OF GRASS AVAILABLE TO SEE... Paved over everything...

There is no where to sit for the most part, unless you pay $20 for an indoor simulcast carrel or the dining room minimums... The atmosphere is closed and claustrophobic throughout downstairs.

Betting tellers are difficult to access unless you are in the upstairs dining rooms, and those are no bargain either... There's a taste of the new Gulfstream..

I agree but let me plays devils advocate here. If Franks main goal is to get a casino then why would be care about on-track attendance. Maybe he sees the future of the sport as at home betting and simulcasting. If that is the case, then track attendance doesnt really matter. Dont get me wrong, I agree 100% with what you are saying. I am just trying to find out if track attendance is way down on the list for Frank.

#10 12-15-2006, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

Once famed for its gracious and expansive backyard setting to enjoy the winter sun in Florida, there is now not ONE BLADE OF GRASS AVAILABLE TO SEE... Paved over everything...

There is no where to sit for the most part, unless you pay $20 for an indoor simulcast carrel or the dining room minimums... The atmosphere is closed and claustrophobic throughout downstairs.

Betting tellers are difficult to access unless you are in the upstairs dining rooms, and those are no bargain either... There's a taste of the new Gulfstream..

Look, they went 360 from the old gulfstream, which, btw, was not run down. It had a nice saddling area, nice elevated walking ring, and the ability to race 1 1/16 races for new 3 yos.However, they did need to reconfigure their simulcasting areas. It was a pleasure to go there for a day of horseracing, in a park like setting. Sure there were alot of empty seats during the week, but it filled up on weekends. The new place has 900 seats outside facing the track at $10 weekdays, much higher special event days, there ought to be some wiggle room between 20,000 seats and 900 dontcha think. the walking ring is a joke, its way too small and tight with no grass and trees. The seats going around the walking ring have too little space between the rows, so good luck with the elderly getting in and out. The sun also beats down on you there, they could use some awnings there, all around, to cover those seated .

In summary, there is no " Park " in Gulfstream Park.

I think all we are saying is that they went way too far the other way, in deemphasizing their product, horse racing, in favor of building a multi purpose entertainment facility. You want vegas style glitz, you got it, you want to go racing, go to tampa , where they have not lost site of their business and their fans. Is it any wonder that tampa's business increased significantly at Gulfstreams expense ? Hardly ! They know who their customers are and care about them, something which Magna fails miserably at, while vowing that they are the new paradigm.

Kasept · #11 12-15-2006, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav

Not saying that, I am sure he is great and a good person, but I am just sick at how people kiss Stronach's behind.

Honestly, I think he has done nothing but good for the industry, where there are alot of haters of him, but his behind is going to be raw from all the kisses he has there

No one survives long near the top of the Magna/MEC world without total capitulation to Stronach's wishes and desires.. no matter how bizarre. He is surrounded by 'yes men' or finds new ones to surround himself with. He regularly recruits top industry minds into the organization, and then totally fails to heed any of their imput. Underlings guard their turf and do their utmost to keep the 'best and brightest' in the organization down.

3M or P&G it ain't..