Apple vs the fbi

Danzig · #1 02-24-2016, 10:46 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/16/us/san...r-phone-apple/
Im sure everyone has seen the story by now. What are your thoughts on this?

On the one hand, i want to know what is on tharlt terrorists phone. On the other.....we know we cannot trust that it is only this one time.

Alabama Stakes · #2 02-25-2016, 12:30 AM

Open a can of worms like that that for what might be there ? Time to get real . You want info fbi ? Figure it out yourself for a change

casp0555 · #3 02-25-2016, 07:40 AM

I am more worried what someone else or some other group will do once that tech gets into their hands......thanks Apple for looking out for your customers, keep up the fight

jms62 · #4 02-25-2016, 07:57 AM

A lot of that information Phone call log and Emails are on servers and not on the physical phone. It is routine that these are provided to law enforcement when subpoenaed. I was in that space awhile ago and was tasked with providing that information quite a few times. Seems like it is Text messages that are the question here

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2393887,00.asp

casp0555 · #5 02-25-2016, 11:29 AM

I just dont agree with our Federal Investigators asking a business to develop a tool to circumvent the security feature designed for the phone to prevent this from occurring in the first place

Apple is not being asked to unlock an iPhone; it’s being asked to create software that would help the FBI unlock it. After which, there’s every reason to expect Apple and every other tech company will be asked to create more software that could be used to diminish even more civil liberties.

http://www.wired.com/2016/02/apple-f...vacy-security/

what's next?...and who knows the answer to that?

Rupert Pupkin · #6 02-26-2016, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by casp0555

I just dont agree with our Federal Investigators asking a business to develop a tool to circumvent the security feature designed for the phone to prevent this from occurring in the first place

Apple is not being asked to unlock an iPhone; it’s being asked to create software that would help the FBI unlock it. After which, there’s every reason to expect Apple and every other tech company will be asked to create more software that could be used to diminish even more civil liberties.

http://www.wired.com/2016/02/apple-f...vacy-security/

what's next?...and who knows the answer to that?

I guessed it depends what Apple is being asked to do. If they are simply being asked to unlock this iPhone, and this iPhone only, they should do it. But they should not be forced to come up with some new system that would allow law enforcement to open up everyone's phone.

jms62 · #7 02-26-2016, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I guessed it depends what Apple is being asked to do. If they are simply being asked to unlock this iPhone, and this iPhone only, they should do it. But they should not be forced to come up with some new system that would allow law enforcement to open up everyone's phone.

They should treat this like any other request for information by law enforcement. Require them to go through the process of obtaining warrants and supeonas for the device. Present them to Apple and have Apple unlock the individual device and reset password and hand over the device. Apple most certainly should be compensated for this new line of business. In no way should they develop something that law enforcement can use on their own.

Danzig · #8 02-26-2016, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I guessed it depends what Apple is being asked to do. If they are simply being asked to unlock this iPhone, and this iPhone only, they should do it. But they should not be forced to come up with some new system that would allow law enforcement to open up everyone's phone.

they aren't asking that.
and at last count, it's about 175 phones now that the fbi and other departments want opened.
and the latter is exactly what they're being asked to do. create a program, that can be used by law enforcement.

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Originally Posted by jms62

They should treat this like any other request for information by law enforcement. Require them to go through the process of obtaining warrants and supeonas for the device. Present them to Apple and have Apple unlock the individual device and reset password and hand over the device. Apple most certainly should be compensated for this new line of business. In no way should they develop something that law enforcement can use on their own.

agree completely

Rupert Pupkin · #9 02-29-2016, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62

They should treat this like any other request for information by law enforcement. Require them to go through the process of obtaining warrants and supeonas for the device. Present them to Apple and have Apple unlock the individual device and reset password and hand over the device. Apple most certainly should be compensated for this new line of business. In no way should they develop something that law enforcement can use on their own.

I agree 100%.