Nfl 2015

[mclem0822]

Originally Posted by Danzig

I cant wait to see how much money that dumbazz owner gives cousins.

They were going to pay Robert $16 million, so if I am Kirk's reps that is a number to begin at. If they want to keep him, but want to see him prove himself further then the franchise tag makes sense. I doubt very much if Kirk would mind a raise to say $20 million. Suitors will come calling, look at the way Hoyer played the other day Houston should certainly try to upgrade and other teams need a QB. I like Kirk, I wanna see him get paid but from a business standpoint it makes sense to tag him. Snyder has and taken a ton of flack ( much of it deserved), I think he's backed off and let the newer GM Mcglewin pick the talent and for that I give Snyder credit. I am very encouraged about the future of the team. Though we certainly do have plenty of holes to still fill.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by mclem0822

They were going to pay Robert $16 million, so if I am Kirk's reps that is a number to begin at. If they want to keep him, but want to see him prove himself further then the franchise tag makes sense. I doubt very much if Kirk would mind a raise to say $20 million. Suitors will come calling, look at the way Hoyer played the other day Houston should certainly try to upgrade and other teams need a QB. I like Kirk, I wanna see him get paid but from a business standpoint it makes sense to tag him. Snyder has and taken a ton of flack ( much of it deserved), I think he's backed off and let the newer GM Mcglewin pick the talent and for that I give Snyder credit. I am very encouraged about the future of the team. Though we certainly do have plenty of holes to still fill.

i think the amount of money going to qb's has gotten so far beyond ridiculous. no way most are worth what they're paid.
i won't be encouraged about wash until they get a new owner.

[Alabama Stakes]

I bet teams with shifty qb's feel differently. How much would jerry jones pay Tom Brady ?

[mclem0822]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i think the amount of money going to qb's has gotten so far beyond ridiculous. no way most are worth what they're paid.
i won't be encouraged about wash until they get a new owner.

Let me ask you a question. What are you feelings about former Redskins coach Joe Gibbs? I assume you have been a Redskins fan for a number of years as I have?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by mclem0822

Let me ask you a question. What are you feelings about former Redskins coach Joe Gibbs? I assume you have been a Redskins fan for a number of years as I have?

Yep, I WAS a redskin fan once. Thought Joe Gibbs was a good coach the first time around....bit Dan is such a curse, even Joe couldn't overcome it when he gave it a second go.
I told my husband a few years ago that I wasn't into self flagellation and I was throwing in the towel on the team until Dan left. No need to willingly accept such punishment.

[mclem0822]

Originally Posted by Danzig

Yep, I WAS a redskin fan once. Thought Joe Gibbs was a good coach the first time around....bit Dan is such a curse, even Joe couldn't overcome it when he gave it a second go.
I told my husband a few years ago that I wasn't into self flagellation and I was throwing in the towel on the team until Dan left. No need to willingly accept such punishment.

I respect and admire Joe Gibbs, he was a great coach back in his day. 2nd time around the game had passed him by, it has changed a lot. The reason I bring him up, is I have always felt he was as honest as the day is long, and he has never said a bad thing about Dan. He says he and Dan had a great relationship, and nobody wants to win more than Dan. The guy may not be as bad as he is portrayed. He has certainly made some moves that I have not liked, but I hope he is trying to stay more in the background now and leave the football decisions to football guys. I think they might finally be on the right track. So you are not a fan of the team anymore? That is to bad. I am not one to give up my fan loyalty because they haven't been successful in awhile, or because I am not currently living in the area. I remain a loyal fan through the good and the bad times. That's just me.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by mclem0822

I respect and admire Joe Gibbs, he was a great coach back in his day. 2nd time around the game had passed him by, it has changed a lot. The reason I bring him up, is I have always felt he was as honest as the day is long, and he has never said a bad thing about Dan. He says he and Dan had a great relationship, and nobody wants to win more than Dan. The guy may not be as bad as he is portrayed. He has certainly made some moves that I have not liked, but I hope he is trying to stay more in the background now and leave the football decisions to football guys. I think they might finally be on the right track. So you are not a fan of the team anymore? That is to bad. I am not one to give up my fan loyalty because they haven't been successful in awhile, or because I am not currently living in the area. I remain a loyal fan through the good and the bad times. That's just me.

I just dont see the point in pulling for them anymore. I dont enjoy football as much as i used to, not even close. I think the play this year overall for the league has been godawful. But a few years ago i looked at hubby and asked why am i doing this, in regards to the team. Snyder reminds me of jerry jones, and i see no reason to punish myself worrying about the team. I just dont really care anymore. About them or anyone else in the nfl. Heck, i still remember sticking by them when awful jack pardee was there and we went 4 and 12.
as for hockey tho...the constant action is what i love. 60 minutes, unlike about 12 in the nfl.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i think the amount of money going to qb's has gotten so far beyond ridiculous. no way most are worth what they're paid.
i won't be encouraged about wash until they get a new owner.

They're worth what teams are willing to pay. No doubt Kirk Cousins is going to get a stupid amount of money for 8 good games, but it reflects the dearth of quality quarterback prospects out there.

IMO, Cousins can make all the throws, but he has done two things so dumb that I would never hand the keys of my franchise to him: the knee against PHI at the end of the 1st half and the sack he took on 4th down late yesterday. Those two plays show such a fundamental lack of football IQ that I could never be confident he could take my team all the way.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

They're worth what teams are willing to pay. No doubt Kirk Cousins is going to get a stupid amount of money for 8 good games, but it reflects the dearth of quality quarterback prospects out there.

IMO, Cousins can make all the throws, but he has done two things so dumb that I would never hand the keys of my franchise to him: the knee against PHI at the end of the 1st half and the sack he took on 4th down late yesterday. Those two plays show such a fundamental lack of football IQ that I could never be confident he could take my team all the way.