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Old 12-13-2006, 03:22 PM
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Old 12-13-2006, 03:26 PM
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Oh wow, Above the Line was in that maiden race. I have a picture of me as a little girl at Overbrook with my brother and her. I dont remember much about her but I still have that picture.
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Old 12-13-2006, 03:33 PM
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I remember Very Subtle , Lady Secret and another local Great Lady M
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Old 12-13-2006, 03:39 PM
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My vote would have to go to Ladys Secret.
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Old 12-13-2006, 03:43 PM
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Pine Tree Lane
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Old 12-13-2006, 03:44 PM
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Pine Tree Lane
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Old 12-13-2006, 03:48 PM
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Old 12-13-2006, 07:47 PM
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I spent my high school weekends walking horses for D Wayne, and i got to walk Terlingua a few times and Great Lady M also. They were both wicked fast. I agree with Cannon Shell on Pine Tree Lane also. She sent Groovy back to New York with his tail waggin with a 43 half in the 86 BC. Very Subtle also gave Groovy a good ol feminie but whuppin.
Not sure if anyone remembers Ski Goggle, but she was one fast filly too. She was undefeated and shipped out to Belmont to face Princess Rooney in the Acorn i believe, and promtly ran her off her feet.
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Old 12-13-2006, 07:52 PM
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I spent my high school weekends walking horses for D Wayne, and i got to walk Terlingua a few times and Great Lady M also. They were both wicked fast. I agree with Cannon Shell on Pine Tree Lane also. She sent Groovy back to New York with his tail waggin with a 43 half in the 86 BC. Very Subtle also gave Groovy a good ol feminie but whuppin.
Not sure if anyone remembers Ski Goggle, but she was one fast filly too. She was undefeated and shipped out to Belmont to face Princess Rooney in the Acorn i believe, and promtly ran her off her feet.
The Wheel Turns ran one of the fastest 1/4's ever.
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Old 12-13-2006, 08:13 PM
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Old 12-13-2006, 08:14 PM
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Pine Tree Lane was later sold in the Horses of racing Age sale at Saratoga where Lukas bought her. I remember seeing her in the ring that day.
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Old 12-13-2006, 08:19 PM
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I remember Jones Time Machine in California before her New York invasion. She was a fast one too. And getting back to Balletos ATF Crimson Saint. The first horse i ever groomed was Terlinguas baby brother Pancho Villa. Broke his maiden 2nd out paying like a 100 bucks. Then hooked Phone Trick in a nw1. Then we went to Aqueduct and beat Spend a Buck in the Bay Shore. Sorry for rambling, but Crimson Saint not only was fast but threw some fast runners.
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Old 12-13-2006, 08:24 PM
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I remember Jones Time Machine in California before her New York invasion. She was a fast one too. And getting back to Balletos ATF Crimson Saint. The first horse i ever groomed was Terlinguas baby brother Pancho Villa. Broke his maiden 2nd out paying like a 100 bucks. Then hooked Phone Trick in a nw1. Then we went to Aqueduct and beat Spend a Buck in the Bay Shore. Sorry for rambling, but Crimson Saint not only was fast but threw some fast runners.
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Old 12-13-2006, 08:30 PM
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I remember Jones Time Machine in California before her New York invasion. She was a fast one too. And getting back to Balletos ATF Crimson Saint. The first horse i ever groomed was Terlinguas baby brother Pancho Villa. Broke his maiden 2nd out paying like a 100 bucks. Then hooked Phone Trick in a nw1. Then we went to Aqueduct and beat Spend a Buck in the Bay Shore. Sorry for rambling, but Crimson Saint not only was fast but threw some fast runners.
Im your groupie... do with me what you wish... just tell me Crimson Saint/Terlingua stories.
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Old 12-13-2006, 09:04 PM
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Ok Balleto, just a little tidbit about Terlingua. Wayne always called her "Beefcake". She was muscle on top of muscle. I did not know much about Crimson Saint, but Wayne would sometimes remark that CS passed on her soundness problems to Terlingua. I would spend alot of mornings hosing down her legs after she trained. On the other hand, Pancho had legs like steel pipes. He later developed throat problems which shortened his carear.
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Old 12-14-2006, 11:41 AM
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read most of the thread and my racing history only goes back 10 years and since no1 respected her from the time she walked through the sales ring and only sold for 5k im gonna mention XTRA HEAT=) yes she was extremely fast but she had so much guts and heart out there on the track and exhibited such as somebody mentioned against the boys in the BC. i wonder how many people to the day are still kicking themselves in the rear for passing on her when she walked through the ring
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Old 12-14-2006, 11:56 AM
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i wonder how many people to the day are still kicking themselves in the rear for passing on her when she walked through the ring
A lot of people don't realize that she actually was sold at auction three different times....and never once brought more than four figures!

* She sold as a weanling at KEE Nov for $9,100

* She sold as a yearling at OBS August for $4,700

and...

* She sold as a 2yo in training at the Fasig-Tipton May sale for just $5,000


After selling for a nickle in May of her 2yo season, she went on to win 8-of-9 starts that year...including 7 stake wins. Her only loss, was the only time she ever routed, that was in the Breeders Cup Juvie Fillies. She actually missed the break that day and was rated off-the-pace.

She was a real amazing horse! I, along with many other competent handicappers, were not that impressed with her as late as the middle point of her 3yo season. I was convinced Victory Ride would totally embarass her in the Test Stakes. I made what might have been my biggest win bet of the entire meet on Victory Ride that day.

It was one of those instances, where I got to make some nice coin but my opinion was absolutely not validated on the track. Xtra Heat won a sensational three-way pace battle through unrealisticly fast fractions, while Victory Ride got a lovely stalk-n-go trip from a great tactical position.

VR had to work hard to wear her down, and Xtra Heat really didn't give in until the final 1/16th. I went from very Anti-XH, to a big fan of hers of the basis of that one losing effort.

Interestingly enough---quite a few handicappers thought the 3rd place finisher, I believe it was Nasty Storm, was the real "trip horse" coming out of that race. Because, she totally blew the brake...and was moving best late, thanks to the brutal early pace in that race.

I also believe Orientate broke his maiden on the same card that day.

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Old 12-14-2006, 12:11 PM
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Interestingly enough---quite a few handicappers thought the 3rd place finisher, I believe it was Nasty Storm, was the real "trip horse" coming out of that race. Because, she totally blew the brake...and was moving best late, thanks to the brutal early pace in that race.

I needed her for second.

Did she dump her rider at the break the next time she ran?
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Old 12-14-2006, 12:12 PM
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I actually think she won her next two starts...against much weaker.

I could be wrong about that though.
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