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Old 11-11-2015, 12:57 PM
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Default American Pharoah for SI Sportsman of the Year

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Old 11-11-2015, 01:28 PM
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Thanks, OldDog!

He's currently running in 2nd, behind the Kansas City Royals.

Breakdown by state:

Pharoah: 37 states
Jordan Speith: 1 state (Alaska. Why do they even get a vote? They're practically Russkies)
Thomas Davis: 1 state (Kentucky, I am ASHAMED of you. Pharoah is your native son! It's not his fault his family moved him to California!)
Kansas City Royals: 11 states (the Heartland, plus Hawaii and Rhode Island. Seriously, Hawaii and Rhode Island? Seriously?)

Are we going to let a baseball minority tyrannize us? I say no! Vote!
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Old 11-11-2015, 03:49 PM
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Thanks, OldDog!

He's currently running in 2nd, behind the Kansas City Royals.

Breakdown by state:

Pharoah: 37 states
Jordan Speith: 1 state (Alaska. Why do they even get a vote? They're practically Russkies)
Thomas Davis: 1 state (Kentucky, I am ASHAMED of you. Pharoah is your native son! It's not his fault his family moved him to California!)
Kansas City Royals: 11 states (the Heartland, plus Hawaii and Rhode Island. Seriously, Hawaii and Rhode Island? Seriously?)

Are we going to let a baseball minority tyrannize us? I say no! Vote!

I can't see it going to anyone else.
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Old 11-12-2015, 05:46 PM
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He better get it. It's a much harder accomplishment and that team will have a shot again next year to win the World Series whereas this is it for Pharoah. Steve Haskin says there are two "winners," the editors' pick and the fan vote. The one who gets the cover is picked by the editors. Ideally that's what we want, but I'm hoping AP wins both.

I was gonna tell the obvious PETA "horse racing is abuse" commenters there about how PETA kills thousands of animals every year but I'm not about to authorize that level of app authorization to SI. Why do they need access to being able to change my profile? If one of you has an account, please tear those losers a new @&$hole.
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Old 11-12-2015, 09:37 PM
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Pharoah is now almost 13,000 votes behind the Kansas City Royals. Boo. I call shenanigans!
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Old 11-13-2015, 10:03 PM
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Pharoah is now almost 13,000 votes behind the Kansas City Royals. Boo. I call shenanigans!
Apparently when you break it down, it's the midwest fans mainly. Nationally Pharoah's got the most widespread support. I can believe Royals fans and people in the area that are just trying to support baseball or the local boys or whatever would pitch in so I don't know that it's shenanigans, it's just straight up not accurately about an individual accomplishment.

His claim is the strongest and most significant even in terms of time since the last occurrence. The Royals haven't won a World series in about 30 years I think, but we have them beat at 37 years. There's a whole team of them, Pharoah did it himself and had to be good enough in a tighter timeframe. He couldn't lose any of 3 races, they could lose several times over a season (winning less than 60% of their games which I know is fine in baseball, but that's not the point) and technically even five times in the playoffs and make it. The point is American Pharoah had no room for error. None. 100% wins or nothing to win the Triple Crown. He got it, then spent the rest of the year being an ambassador for sport. The Royals haven't even been in a position to do the same as WS champs for as long, nor do they risk anything now. Their season is over. Pharoah's kept going and he risked both injury and failure to solidify his reputation historically in open company. There's just no contest. The editors have to pick him if the public does not.
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Old 11-28-2015, 12:46 AM
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As great a year that A. Pharoah had he can only win 2 Eclipse awards, similar to Cal Chrome last year. Might even feel silly to nominate other 3 year old's against him.

with that known, who would you like to see nominated with him as 3 y.o. and H.O.Y ?
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Old 11-29-2015, 02:31 PM
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I voted for Effinex.
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Old 11-30-2015, 04:08 AM
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I voted for Effinex.
Good call. Nice to see those connections win the Clark.
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Old 11-30-2015, 09:08 AM
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I voted for Effinex.
Trivia.....What does effinex mean in Boston Speak ?
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http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/horse...t-nothing.aspx

well done.

and i also read that SI opened up voting, but also said they would choose the winner themselves. they never said the award would go to who got the most fan votes.
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As noted throughout the odyssey, work of @SITimLayden mirrored near-perfect American Pharoah's. And now, Tim's coda.
http://www.si.com/sportsperson/2015/...?xid=si_social
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Old 12-15-2015, 09:11 PM
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Maybe it's just me,but who looks at SI anymore. Wait, maybe just on that one special day.
Well said Dave, only one day a year you hear their name.
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Default American Pharoah / Vote Now

Not sure if anyone has posted this yet but the voting is on
for Sports Illustrated > Sportsman or Horse of the year

Here is the info


AT THIS POINT IN VOTING....
THE TOP 2 CONTENDERS ARE:
PHAROAH AND KANSAS CITY ROYALS.


http://www.si.com/sportsmanofyear/20...ear-contenders
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Old 12-14-2015, 04:23 AM
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American Pharoah easily dominates his human competition and wins the readers' choice for Sportsman of the Year. The breakdown of voting by region, age and gender is interesting:

http://www.si.com/sportsmanofyear/20...sportsman-year
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Old 12-14-2015, 07:57 AM
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American Pharoah easily dominates his human competition and wins the readers' choice for Sportsman of the Year. The breakdown of voting by region, age and gender is interesting:

http://www.si.com/sportsmanofyear/20...sportsman-year
Something's not right in those voting breakdowns. In the gender breakdown graph, KC appears to have twice as many male votes as Pharoah, while women voters appear to be split evenly between KC and Pharoah. So KC appears to have won. Yet in the overall tally, AP has 50% more votes. That makes no sense.

Okay, I see what's wrong. The gender and age breakdowns only included about 43,000 votes for all the nominees. But there were about 589,000 votes. So those gender and age graphs only show about 7% of the votes!

Somebody got carried away making pretty graphs but forgot about having it make sense or be representative of the data.
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Old 12-14-2015, 09:19 AM
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Serena Williams ends up winning the actual title of sportsman of the year.

Take out the American Pharoah aspect and this selection still rubs me all the wrong way. Yes, Williams had another career year and did just what everyone expected her to do - except win the US Open in which she lost to an unknown Italian player in the semi-finals. Not even the finals. She was supposed to dominate and didn't and acted all put out like she usually does. She's a horrible sportsman and always has been. Women's tennis is notoriously weak at the top save Williams. She dominates an easily dominatable division. Sticking with tennis, a glance at the year Novak Djokovic had and anyone with a basic understanding of sports and competition can see that what he put together in 2015 was stunning. It's been called the "best year of tennis ever" in men's tennis. He was a set away from a Grand Slam (losing to Stan Wawrinka in the Aus Open final). He's currently miles ahead of the 2nd ranked player. I can't speak to the other nominees as I don't follow basketball or women's boxing or soccer or whatever else was nominated, but I can tell you the pick of William's in just the realm of tennis is an absolute sham because there were other competitors with stronger resumes for this year's award.
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Old 12-14-2015, 11:34 AM
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Something's not right in those voting breakdowns. In the gender breakdown graph, KC appears to have twice as many male votes as Pharoah, while women voters appear to be split evenly between KC and Pharoah. So KC appears to have won. Yet in the overall tally, AP has 50% more votes. That makes no sense.

Okay, I see what's wrong. The gender and age breakdowns only included about 43,000 votes for all the nominees. But there were about 589,000 votes. So those gender and age graphs only show about 7% of the votes!

Somebody got carried away making pretty graphs but forgot about having it make sense or be representative of the data.
It's possible they pulled from the people who identified age and gender (I can't remember if I did, or had to), and not the rest who didn't. It's also possible they only analyzed a segment of the total data, but if they did, it's probably pretty representative of the total voting population.

Either way, I'll forward it on to my brother, who has a PhD in statistics and ask him what he thinks of the accuracy of the presented data. He lives for this kind of thing.
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Old 12-14-2015, 12:18 PM
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It's possible they pulled from the people who identified age and gender (I can't remember if I did, or had to), and not the rest who didn't. It's also possible they only analyzed a segment of the total data, but if they did, it's probably pretty representative of the total voting population.

Either way, I'll forward it on to my brother, who has a PhD in statistics and ask him what he thinks of the accuracy of the presented data. He lives for this kind of thing.
I'm sure your brother will come to the same conclusion I did. The data shown in the the male/female graph totally misrepresents the overall data. Likewise, but less glaringly so, the data in the "by age" graph also misrepresents the overall data.

Look at it again--don't you agree that the male/female graph seems to show that KC had more votes than AP?
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