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Old 12-13-2006, 01:42 PM
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Xtra Heat against anyone at 6F or less....
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Old 12-13-2006, 01:42 PM
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We may agree here... you think she was faster than her dam though?
She was the dam of Storm Cat...who was her dam?
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Old 12-13-2006, 01:43 PM
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She was the dam of Storm Cat...who was her dam?
Crimson Saint...
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Old 12-13-2006, 01:44 PM
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Crimson Saint is Terlingua's dam... which is why in my original post I said Crimson Saint is partly responsible for some of the fastest "blood" in today's horses.
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Old 12-13-2006, 01:44 PM
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Crimson Saint...
Thats my girl... I heart my Jamie... she knows my infatuation for everything Crimson Saint! lol
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Old 12-13-2006, 01:44 PM
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Capote Belle, Exotic Wood....
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Old 12-13-2006, 01:45 PM
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For those who don't remember Melair.....

She raced only in 1986, winning all five of her lifetime starts, three of them in Graded Stake races.

Melair is most famous for taking on top males in a $400K Grade 2 Stake and DESTROYING them. She won it by 6 1/2 lengths over 8 time champion South American sire Southern Halo. Snow Cheif, who was Champion 3yo male that same year, finished 3rd beaten 11 lengths. The final time for the mile was a supersonic 1:32 4/5. She was just 3/5ths of Dr. Fager's world record.

She also beat Hidden Light in another Stake that year. Those not fimilar with Hidden Light, she won the Gr 1 Santa Anita Oaks, Gr 1 Hollywood Oaks, and Grade 1 Del Mar Oaks that same year, and she's also the dam of Artie Schiller.

While I was only 5 years old when Melair raced...I have seen film of three of her races...and she was an absolute freak.
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Old 12-13-2006, 01:46 PM
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Capote Belle, Exotic Wood....
Capote Bell... good choice.
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Old 12-13-2006, 01:47 PM
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Exotic Wood was one nice filly for Ron Ellis
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Old 12-13-2006, 01:48 PM
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Thats my girl... I heart my Jamie... she knows my infatuation for everything Crimson Saint! lol
You've got good taste!
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Old 12-13-2006, 01:51 PM
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For those who don't remember Melair.....

She raced only in 1986, winning all five of her lifetime starts, three of them in Graded Stake races.

Melair is most famous for taking on top males in a $400K Grade 2 Stake and DESTROYING them. She won it by 6 1/2 lengths over 8 time champion South American sire Southern Halo. Snow Cheif, who was Champion 3yo male that same year, finished 3rd beaten 11 lengths. The final time for the mile was a supersonic 1:32 4/5. She was just 3/5ths of Dr. Fager's world record.

She also beat Hidden Light in another Stake that year. Those not fimilar with Hidden Light, she won the Gr 1 Santa Anita Oaks, Gr 1 Hollywood Oaks, and Grade 1 Del Mar Oaks that same year, and she's also the dam of Artie Schiller.

While I was only 5 years old when Melair raced...I have seen film of three of her races...and she was an absolute freak.
Hmm first i've ever heard of her. She raced a year before I was born...

Looking at her pedigree, its pretty interesting. There are lines of some of the best blood of her time, but through individuals that were considered subpar representatives of that blood. She's tail-female to Admiration who produced the incredible Pretty Polly. Amazing how true class will rise out of no where when the blood is there.

Raja Baba is such an underestimated source of class and speed... that family can sure produce a sire.
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Old 12-13-2006, 01:52 PM
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How about Genuine Risk and Silverbulletday?
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Old 12-13-2006, 01:53 PM
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For those who don't remember Melair.....

She raced only in 1986, winning all five of her lifetime starts, three of them in Graded Stake races.

Melair is most famous for taking on top males in a $400K Grade 2 Stake and DESTROYING them. She won it by 6 1/2 lengths over 8 time champion South American sire Southern Halo. Snow Cheif, who was Champion 3yo male that same year, finished 3rd beaten 11 lengths. The final time for the mile was a supersonic 1:32 4/5. She was just 3/5ths of Dr. Fager's world record.

She also beat Hidden Light in another Stake that year. Those not fimilar with Hidden Light, she won the Gr 1 Santa Anita Oaks, Gr 1 Hollywood Oaks, and Grade 1 Del Mar Oaks that same year, and she's also the dam of Artie Schiller.

While I was only 5 years old when Melair raced...I have seen film of three of her races...and she was an absolute freak.
That was one of the greatest performances I ever saw. We didn't have simulcasting here back then, and I caught it on ESPN on that racing around the country replay show. It was incredible.
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Carsons Hollow!

you guys are breakin my heart, didnt anyone love this filly too?
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Old 12-13-2006, 01:55 PM
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If you think Capote Belle was good, and she was, what about Danseuse who drowned her in their respective debuts and went on to run, unfortunately, only once more?
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Old 12-13-2006, 01:56 PM
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If you think Capote Belle was good, and she was, what about Danseuse who drowned her in their respective debuts and went on to run, unfortunately, only once more?
That was a true shame. She was crazy good.
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Old 12-13-2006, 01:57 PM
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you guys are breakin my heart, didnt anyone love this filly too?
She was OK...but not in the league of the horses being mentioned here....at least for the most part.
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Old 12-13-2006, 01:58 PM
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If you think Capote Belle was good, and she was, what about Danseuse who drowned her in their respective debuts and went on to run, unfortunately, only once more?
I didn't see their debuts... what happened to her where she only went on to run once more?
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Old 12-13-2006, 01:58 PM
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Crimson Saint is Terlingua's dam... which is why in my original post I said Crimson Saint is partly responsible for some of the fastest "blood" in today's horses.
At risk of opening myself up for some more of your lame insults...which I assume I deserved because I disagreed with you....

Are you picking Crimison Saint because of her steller produce record...or do you really believe she be justified as an all-time fastest filly based upon what she did on the race track?

I've seen a lot of film of a lot of great fillies---but never seen any of her races. All I know, about her as a race horse is that she was 7-for-11 and made 91K with one graded stake win.

A horse like Spectacular Bid was 24-for-24 lifetime, between the distances of 7 furlong to 1 1/4 miles, setting MANY track records, and overcoming tremendous adversity in some of those wins (Florida Derby etc.) Yet, he was a rather weak stallion. Would you hold the fact that he was so bad in the breeding shed against him as a race horse?
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If you think Capote Belle was good, and she was, what about Danseuse who drowned her in their respective debuts and went on to run, unfortunately, only once more?
Was it only once more? I remember she won easily in her first two starts, then something went wrong... Maybe im thinking of the wrong horse, but I seem to remember her coming back at some point and running pretty poorly after that.
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