Liam's Map=Cross Traffic part 2?

[Uncle Daddy]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I believe Liams Map is running in a race he is vey likely to win simply to get WPT in winners circle on a huge day so they can garner more publicity as a big time Partnership group and sell more partnerships. It's a huge opportunity to promote their brand. Is Map going to run in '16? I would assume so if WPT just bought in right? Perhaps the theory is run the BC Mile(70 yards) followed by Cigar Donn? To me this seems to be about WPT wanting to gain traction selling the yearlings they just purchased.

VERY Bad for racing, good for selling partnerships I guess?

Your assumption is original owners don't call the shots and because WPT took a stake they make the decisions? Not possible the original owners think he fits in a G1 mile for $600K and that he might not have the stuff to defeat the big 3 in the Classic?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Uncle Daddy

Your assumption is original owners don't call the shots and because WPT took a stake they make the decisions? Not possible the original owners think he fits in a G1 mile for $600K and that he might not have the stuff to defeat the big 3 in the Classic?

Whoever is responsible for this decision made a bad one. Period. It really isn't even debatable.

The decisions cannot be result oriented in ANY way. From an expected value perspective his purse earning figure to be similar for both races ( 50% in a $1 million race giving him the benefit of the doubt that he will be even money equal $500K in expected earnings while roughly 10:1, maybe too high but close, in a $5 million race gives him the same $500K in expected earnings ). However, the potential intrinsic gains by running in the Classic FAR outweigh those of the Dirt Mile. In the Dirt Mile, he rates to gain NOTHING from a breeding perspective with a win, and could in fact hurt himself ( probably slightly ) with a loss. However, a win, or even a good second, has real intrinsic value for him as a stallion, and a loss would do next to nothing to tarnish his value.

This is what matters...not whether you or I, or anybody, think he can win either race, or where he has a better chance. That nonsense is irrelevant and, frankly, just gets in the way of making the clear correct decision. To me, it is inarguable.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Whoever is responsible for this decision made a bad one. Period. It really isn't even debatable.

The decisions cannot be result oriented in ANY way. From an expected value perspective his purse earning figure to be similar for both races ( 50% in a $1 million race giving him the benefit of the doubt that he will be even money equal $500K in expected earnings while roughly 10:1, maybe too high but close, in a $5 million race gives him the same $500K in expected earnings ). However, the potential intrinsic gains by running in the Classic FAR outweigh those of the Dirt Mile. In the Dirt Mile, he rates to gain NOTHING from a breeding perspective with a win, and could in fact hurt himself ( probably slightly ) with a loss. However, a win, or even a good second, has real intrinsic value for him as a stallion, and a loss would do next to nothing to tarnish his value.

This is what matters...not whether you or I, or anybody, think he can win either race, or where he has a better chance. That nonsense is irrelevant and, frankly, just gets in the way of making the clear correct decision. To me, it is inarguable.

this is why i really don't think anyone who thinks they have a good chance in the bcc will skip to try to get the 'easy money' in the mile. everyone knows it's the big race of the year for older horses.
and when you have true milers, entering there when you have a 9-10f horse isn't exactly 'easy money' or a guarantee of a win, or a board finish for that matter.
we have a turf sprint, mile, and then the the turf classic-with none of the pearl clutching. i don't get it.