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Old 08-23-2015, 07:19 AM
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Beholder's running style isn't conducive to a match race with a horse like American Pharoah. The mere suggestion is as silly as when people rumbled for a Zenyatta/Rachel Alexandra match race. One horse would need to completely change their running style. No sense in it. Let them meet in a real race with normal conditions and we will see who's better.
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Old 08-23-2015, 08:32 AM
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Beholder's running style isn't conducive to a match race with a horse like American Pharoah. The mere suggestion is as silly as when people rumbled for a Zenyatta/Rachel Alexandra match race. One horse would need to completely change their running style. No sense in it. Let them meet in a real race with normal conditions and we will see who's better.
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Old 08-23-2015, 09:13 AM
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Wouldn't you know the August picture in the calendar
that Steve and Santa Anita Park gave out is
a beautiful picture of Mandella giving Beholder a peppermint.
Thanks again Steve
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Old 08-23-2015, 09:34 AM
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Last year as a 2yo he ran faster than she did on the same card, in the very next race after hers.

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American Pharoah left his rivals during the fourth quarter of the race, when he threw a 23.93-second split at them with Espinoza doing no more than just waving the stick in front of American Pharoah’s right eye. He continued powerfully to the finish to complete 1 1/16 miles on the fast main track in 1:41.95, earning a gaudy Beyer Speed Figure of 101.

The final time compared well with the other 1 1/16-mile, Grade 1 stakes on the card. One race earlier, two-time Breeders’ Cup winner Beholder was timed in 1:42.19 for her victory in the Zenyatta Stakes.
http://www.drf.com/news/road-derby-a...trunner-stakes

Obviously a lot has changed since then but something to think about.
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Old 08-23-2015, 09:37 AM
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Beholder's running style isn't conducive to a match race with a horse like American Pharoah. The mere suggestion is as silly as when people rumbled for a Zenyatta/Rachel Alexandra match race. One horse would need to completely change their running style. No sense in it. Let them meet in a real race with normal conditions and we will see who's better.


pretty much every match race ever is won by who wins the break.

Hopefully they both go in the bcc
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Old 08-23-2015, 11:02 AM
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pretty much every match race ever is won by who wins the break.

Hopefully they both go in the bcc

Beholder ran unreal yesterday. Mandella is master and had her cranked for effort I am not sure he pulls it off again BUT it would be great. That was NOT the Whitney yesterday that was The Pac Classic and NONE of those would have been less then 10/1 in Whitney save the mare. Take NOTHING away from a superior mare yet we need to have objective respectful take on the caliber of that field.
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Old 08-23-2015, 12:39 PM
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Beholder ran unreal yesterday. Mandella is master and had her cranked for effort I am not sure he pulls it off again BUT it would be great. That was NOT the Whitney yesterday that was The Pac Classic and NONE of those would have been less then 10/1 in Whitney save the mare. Take NOTHING away from a superior mare yet we need to have objective respectful take on the caliber of that field.

all true. Thats why i want her in the classic...none of the rest tho
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