Appropriate Retaliation

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by sham

The point of the question is to raise a fundamental issue about morality. Is there ever a line that can be crossed by the terrorist that would make it acceptable to kill innocents in order to stop the bad guys. The scenario I postulated is one that may have to be faced someday. Is it justifiable to kill 100 to save 1000, or kill 100,000 to save 10 million? Maybe it's justifiable to kill 1000 to save 100. I really don't know. Perhaps it boils down to a simple matter of self defense...better them than us.

Then there is the matter as to the identity of country X. If it was Russia or China, a significant retaliatory strike would be something else indeed than if country X was Iran or Pakistan.
Of course we could also take the view that in spite of country X's culpability in the matter, it was still the terrorist that actually instigated the attack, and only they should feel the wrath of retaliation.

I'm sorry that some of you found this question too silly to debate, but I assure you, the scenario I offered is under consideration as a future threat by various "think-tank" firms as to both emergency response and appropriate retaliation matters. I admit to exaggerating the "best guess" expected devastation by an order of magnitude to emphasize the point.

Good of you to include this part as it is nearly verbatim what i told you on another forum.

There are many doomsday scenarios that people on a horseracing board might not be so inclined to debate. That doesn't mean they think its silly, just irrelevant. Just because people in military think-tanks are debating something doesn't mean we have to find it interesting. They're paid to "think" about these things. Most likely there isn't one easy nice acceptable answer.
If it comes down to survival, or our own self defense, it becomes war and no war happens without causualites to the innocent. You can try to minimize it but it will happen.

I still can't figure out what is driving you to seek an answer to this question.

Do you work for a Think-Tank perhaps?

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

sham,...

a. this will never happen
b. trust me if it did happen everyone is getting nuked by us and it will be sorted out later..
c. these think tanks should work on how to defend a bio threat, much more likely...
d a day with diixie at the nfc playoff ,,when the cowboys lose would be perfect for any offender ..

[sham]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

sham,...

a. this will never happen
b. trust me if it did happen everyone is getting nuked by us and it will be sorted out later..
c. these think tanks should work on how to defend a bio threat, much more likely...
d a day with diixie at the nfc playoff ,,when the cowboys lose would be perfect for any offender ..

Yes it could happen. Here is a link to a Rand Corp study describing one scenario.

http://benmuse.typepad.com/ben_muse/...e_they_se.html

The bio threat is under consideration and study. One of the dirtiest would be a terrorist group intentionally becoming infected with small pox and then walking around crowded airports to spread the disease over multiple cities.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

the rand corp does fine work and im sure they are on top of it..the smuggling of weapons does not seem to be the most liklely senario..as i have some back ground in n.b w.. that would be the most potental for human loss ,but again the athoritys are well versed in what to do and are pro actionary when it comes to this stuff..

[Downthestretch55]

Sham,
Initially I blew this thread off as it seemed too horrible to contemplate.
Then I went back and reread it. When you said this, you nailed it.

"Is there ever a line that can be crossed by the terrorist that would make it acceptable to kill innocents in order to stop the bad guys."

Your question is quite profound.
I'll just say that it's a matter of "perception". Which side of the fence are you standing on?
From the US position, appropriate actions have been evidenced.
From the Iraqi position, they might see exactly the same and also justify their response.
It's far too easy to see others as "bad guys".
Suffer the innocents.

btw...I agree with you that it will be biological...but not as you have conjectured.