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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

If they didn't know the race of the person shot in 25% of the cases, that means they did know the race of the person in 75% of the cases. As I said before, when you look at data on any subject, you never need to have 100% of the data to be able to draw accurate conclusions. If there are 2,400 police shootings, if they only have data on half of the shootings, the results are still going to be the same (give or take 1%). Even if they only had data on 240 of the shootings (10%), the numbers are going to be the same. You don't need anything close to all the data. I'm not sure what is so confusing to you about that.

If I do a poll of 1,000 random people on any subject, and 80% of the respondents answer a certain way, is the poll not reliable since there are 300 million people in the country and I only polled 1000 people? Good luck if you think polls and data aren't accurate unless they cover the whole population. If a new medication is tested on 1,000 people and it works on 90% of them, would you say we need to test it on 300 million people to know whether it works? Of course not. If you have a good size sample of something, that is all you need. I don't know why that is so hard for you to understand. Although I don't think you would have a problem understanding it if you liked the conclusion. But since you don't like the conclusion, you say they need more data.

i have no problem with polls.
this isn't a poll. it's a bs article that supposedly uses facts to draw a conclusion.
polls have to do with opinions.
this article you used supposedly deals with facts. it does not however. and how can one conclude something regarding race, when 25% of the data is unknown??
and it's not whether someone likes or doesn't like his opinion. it's that no logical conclusion can be reached due to faulty and incomplete data.

also, take note of this from politifact:

We have not found any experts who will vouch for numbers that purport to represent annual fatal shootings by police, as there are gaping holes within each dataset.

visited factcheck.org, to see what i could find. based on cdc info from death certificates, they show:

The CDC database contains deaths as a result of “legal intervention,” which is defined as “injuries inflicted by the police or other law-enforcing agents, including military on duty, in the course of arresting or attempting to arrest lawbreakers, suppressing disturbances, maintaining order, and other legal actions.”
We searched the CDC database for fatal firearm shootings that occurred during legal interventions. The database provides the race of the deceased, but not the race of the law enforcement officer who fired the fatal shot or shots. Still, the CDC information is useful.
From 1999 through 2012, there were 4,819 such shooting deaths. Most of those killed — 69 percent — were white. However, the white population in the U.S. is far greater than the population of blacks, so the data also show blacks were fatally shot at more than twice the rate of whites.
During that 14-year period, there were 3,333 white people shot and killed during legal interventions, 1,270 blacks, 111 Asians and 105 native American Indians. Based on the population during that time, the CDC database shows 1 white person was shot and killed during legal intervention per million. The rate for blacks was 2.3 people for every 1 million.